ThistleWhistle Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 If we stand there watching them pass it about then categorically the answer is 'yes' Hope we don't get them in the groups of the euros if we make it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 we are a decent side, england are a top side and played us off the park. Bellingham is one of the best in the world inhis position. Â We dont have players in that league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, Malcolm said: we are a decent side, england are a top side and played us off the park. Bellingham is one of the best in the world inhis position. Â We dont have players in that league Yeah we do, KT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 England are a talented side but we should not fear them - or anyone - at home. If we looked at the teams on paper and saw their star striker playing for Real Madrid and ours playing in the Championship (no offence to them) and felt fear or that we are not worthy, we may as well give up and not bother fielding a national team, just leave the game to big countries. The fact we beat Spain shows that we can compete with anyone on our day. The problem is when we have an off day, that's all. It happens.    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 hours ago, exile said: England are a talented side but we should not fear them - or anyone - at home. If we looked at the teams on paper and saw their star striker playing for Real Madrid and ours playing in the Championship (no offence to them) and felt fear or that we are not worthy, we may as well give up and not bother fielding a national team, just leave the game to big countries. The fact we beat Spain shows that we can compete with anyone on our day. The problem is when we have an off day, that's all. It happens.    Nail on the head. We need to be at the top of our games to beat sides like England but we weren't last night. As a result we lost 3-1 against one of the best sides in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 The question of fear isn’t the one to answer, we shouldn’t, we can’t fear anyone. Obviously you have to show a certain amount of respect to quality teams and players. But no gain in fearing anyone. Unfortunately they have guys who play for Bayern and Real Madrid for a reason so there’s only so much we can do but we can do better than what I seen based on the highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 The third goal was the most disappointing for me, we let their defence knock it about in our half for a couple of minutes. Why was that allowed to happen? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots_Wha_Hae Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Toepoke said: The third goal was the most disappointing for me, we let their defence knock it about in our half for a couple of minutes. Why was that allowed to happen? Â Because we spent the whole first half trying to press them high in their own half and they just passed it around, through and over us to create chance after chance. The idea is that they are unlikely to be as much of a threat if they have the ball in their own half and we have almost all our defenders and midfielders set well in our own half. Unfortunately their quality was such that even going compact like we did couldn't stop them, and Bellingham in particular, from finding the necessary space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 11 hours ago, Malcolm said: we are a decent side, england are a top side and played us off the park. Bellingham is one of the best in the world inhis position. Â We dont have players in that league Pretty much that. England is top 3 contender to win next summer. France big favourites but I'd rank England up there with Portugal as the next best. Spain seem to be coming into form aswell again but think England are stronger in key areas at this current time. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, just qualifying from the the group stages next summer will be a big success based on history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 12 hours ago, ThistleWhistle said: If we stand there watching them pass it about then categorically the answer is 'yes' Hope we don't get them in the groups of the euros if we make it Won't if win the group so that's something really to play for now although will be difficult with Spain coming back into form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 We didnt press them hard enough because presumably were unwilling to leave our defence one on one with their forwards. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 21 hours ago, Toepoke said: TBF we had to stop using it for ourselves as we were booing our own anthem before every game.  Took them a long time to get the message though. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Toepoke said: The third goal was the most disappointing for me, we let their defence knock it about in our half for a couple of minutes. Why was that allowed to happen?  I thought their third goal was and excellent bit of football from them. Bellingham is a class player. He took three of our players out with that wee turn, with the ball seemingly stuck to his foot, then slotted a perfectly weighted pass to Kane who couldn't miss from that position. Sometimes you just can't stop these top class players unless you foul them. Which, with hindsight, somebody should have done. The only player who got close enough to do it was Christie. I read somewhere it was all McGregor's fault though. 😉🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Probably a stupid question, but do the bookings last night count towards possible suspensions in the qualifiers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Black Bra said: Probably a stupid question, but do the bookings last night count towards possible suspensions in the qualifiers? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I think the 5-4-1 worked against us last night. 4-5-1 might have got us a bit closer in the midfield. Hendry and McKenna would probably have had sufficient pace as the centre half pairing. Lewis Ferguson could have added some aggression to the midfield. Alternatively if Robertson not dropped, then Tierney could have gone in midfield rather than Ferguson. We couldn’t cope with Rashford, Bellingham. Foden and Kane. Not many teams would but they got on the ball too easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 15 hours ago, ThistleWhistle said: Hope we don't get them in the groups of the euros if we make it This a million times. We've seen from the previous Euros and with the women's team: all the media attention goes on to the England games, as opposed to ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Clyde1998 said: This a million times. We've seen from the previous Euros and with the women's team: all the media attention goes on to the England games, as opposed to ourselves. Bugged the tits off me at the Euros as England should have been the least important game but completely overshadowed the other two to our detriment. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Yes. Close the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: Yes. Close the thread. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4Footsoldier Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 I wouldn't really read into that result any more than the 90mins, which was a fair result. Our objective from the break was complete, this was icing on the cake if we could do something. And we didn't play particularly well. England had a point to prove after dropping points the other night. They have a squad of truly world class players and played well. They would have likely beaten every other side in the world outside of the top 10 by 2 clear goals playing like that. Trust the process, trust in Clarke and the squad. God knows they've earned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Have never feared them . Though always know plenty do and always will. that was a painful watch . We didn’t turn up but I didn’t think we were out of it at half time. They certainly didn’t look world beaters. had to laugh at harry the Heid contribution and then Bellingham orchestrated the best bit of the game . unsuprisingley the most sensible line I’ve heard since the game came from Coach Clarke in saying sometimes you have to take your medicine. if we’d played well and taken a hammering I would be worried. As things stand I don’t think we will underperform the next time . Maybe in Germany next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Shaundy said:  As things stand I don’t think we will underperform the next time . Maybe in Germany next summer. There is now a dossier buiding up of times we have underperformed - the majority being at Hampden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: There is now a dossier buiding up of times we have underperformed - the majority being at Hampden Is it as big as the dossier on teams we have beaten that are higher ranked than us in recent times? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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