Orraloon Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 11 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Nice skills from McGinn. The guy he took the pish out of, falls down pretending to be injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Fraser being quite simply awful for Newcastle against Newport. If he is the answer then god knows what the question is. Cue, a second half hat trick from the wee man. 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Burj_Alba said: Fraser being quite simply awful for Newcastle against Newport. If he is the answer then god knows what the question is. Cue, a second half hat trick from the wee man. 🤣🤣 1 bad performance doesn't mean he's a bad player. He's our best winger by quite a bit. Not very committed to Scotland though which is another problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Fraser's Newcastle through on penalties. Ryan didn't take one of Newcastle six as apparently he thought he might get injured taking one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Burj_Alba said: Fraser's Newcastle through on penalties. Ryan didn't take one of Newcastle six as apparently he thought he might get injured taking one. It's a hard life being Ryan Fraser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, mccaughey85 said: 1 bad performance doesn't mean he's a bad player. He's our best winger by quite a bit. Not very committed to Scotland though which is another problem. I’ve said before on here he’s a man down when not on it. That’s why he can’t be trusted at wing back. On form, he’s electric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Why do we still see mctominay being significant to Scotland . He was a bit of a car crash in the last two games , okay he isn’t a defender , but I never see much in him as a midfielder either , which is plain to see in the limited games he plays for man united. Edited September 30, 2020 by DAVIDB46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, DAVIDB46 said: Why do we still see mctominay being significant to Scotland . He was a bit of a car crash in the last two games , okay he isn’t a defender , but I never see much in him as a midfielder either , which is plain to see in the limited games he plays for man united. I agree. Even though he's a man united player I don't see him as a certain starter for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Mctominey scores for man utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, DAVIDB46 said: Why do we still see mctominay being significant to Scotland . He was a bit of a car crash in the last two games , okay he isn’t a defender , but I never see much in him as a midfielder either , which is plain to see in the limited games he plays for man united. He's started more games for Man Utd this season than any one else in the squad and would walk into any team in Scotland and more than half the teams in the Premiership. Basically if you have a squad number at any of the big five in England you are good enough for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 People always have short memories re players. Before lockdown in March Mctomminay was having a terrific season. One particular game last season away at Man City he was excellent. Although hardly a young player now he’s got plenty years ahead of him and dips in form are inevitable at his age.If you go right through that league players forms have been all over the place. Fleck was the same. And for it’s worth dont get why Clarke is playing him as centre half. He’s got stature, presence and should hopefully nail down a place in centre mid for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, DAVIDB46 said: Why do we still see mctominay being significant to Scotland . He was a bit of a car crash in the last two games , okay he isn’t a defender , but I never see much in him as a midfielder either , which is plain to see in the limited games he plays for man united. I suggest you watch the previous two matches again. He made one glaring mistake in both, but other than that, he was fine. He actually started off the move that lead to Dyke's goal. He scored 5 goals for United last season, and before the lockdown, he was United's best performer, along with Fernandez. For Scotland, he's one of the first names on the team-sheet. Put it into perspective. Would Christie get any games for Man United? McGregor? Jack? Fleck? Neither of them when would make the bench. They wouldn't even get one minute between them, in an entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, DAVIDB46 said: Why do we still see mctominay being significant to Scotland . He was a bit of a car crash in the last two games , okay he isn’t a defender , but I never see much in him as a midfielder either , which is plain to see in the limited games he plays for man united. Hes clearly not a centre back so Clarke playing there was always going to be a struggle for him. Hes a good midfielder and would probably be a starter for most lower half epl sides and the old firm. He's maybe not the world beater we want but he's easily good enough to start games for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Hes clearly not a centre back so Clarke playing there was always going to be a struggle for him. Hes a good midfielder and would probably be a starter for most lower half epl sides and the old firm. He's maybe not the world beater we want but he's easily good enough to start games for us. Got to b honest and say before the game I thought he was our best option for a right footed central defender in a back three. In fact he probably still is if being right footed is the be all and end all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Got to b honest and say before the game I thought he was our best option for a right footed central defender in a back three. In fact he probably still is if being right footed is the be all and end all. Is porteous right footed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Is porteous right footed? Think so, but he's far too young to risk no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I would think Mctominay he may be better and more effect for us if he took a loan move somwhere and played more regularly. Not impossible that could happen of course he has scored tonight getting forwards , but still feel, there is little chance of him doing that in Scotland shirt or being able to in our set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ceudmilefailte said: Think so, but he's far too young to risk no doubt. Fuck it,play the lad if we are to play three at the back,go with porteous, cooper and mckenna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ceudmilefailte said: Think so, but he's far too young to risk no doubt. Hes 21...at what point is he old enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Hes 21...at what point is he old enough? That was sarcasm, based on the current manager and the way Scottish football works. In fact if you think about it that's why Turnbull has only managed 45 minutes at Parkhead and Rangers keep dumping all their young players. Of course he is old enough. Edited September 30, 2020 by ceudmilefailte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, DAVIDB46 said: I would think Mctominay he may be better and more effect for us if he took a loan move somwhere and played more regularly. Not impossible that could happen of course he has scored tonight getting forwards , but still feel, there is little chance of him doing that in Scotland shirt or being able to in our set up He played 37 times last season, hes a valuable part of the man utd squad. He doesn't need a loan move if he plays 35+ games a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: That was sarcasm, based on the current manager and the way Scottish football works. In fact if you think about it that's why Turnbull has only managed 45 minutes at Parkhead and Rangers keep dumping all their young players. Of course he is old enough. My bad...without going full Tadger1996, I'd far rather see the likes of Porteous getting a cap ahead of Gallacher and a guy like Hickey getting exposure to the full squad over someone like SOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: My bad...without going full Tadger1996, I'd far rather see the likes of Porteous getting a cap ahead of Gallacher and a guy like Hickey getting exposure to the full squad over someone like SOD Agree 100%. But I would add a fair few more to SOD to allow younger players to start getting the feel of international football. Massive difference turning up for training with Robertson and McGinn than turning up for the under 21's, although they do have a better coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Agree 100%. But I would add a fair few more to SOD to allow younger players to start getting the feel of international football. Massive difference turning up for training with Robertson and McGinn than turning up for the under 21's, although they do have a better coach Agreed...I'd have a nucleus of 18-20 experienced guys and 4 or 5, younger lads who we think could benefit from higher level exposure...my 5 would be Porteous, Hickey, Turnbull, Gilmour when fit, and Hornby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Agreed...I'd have a nucleus of 18-20 experienced guys and 4 or 5, younger lads who we think could benefit from higher level exposure...my 5 would be Porteous, Hickey, Turnbull, Gilmour when fit, and Hornby Gilmour's one of the 18-20 but I'll give you the other four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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