hampden_loon2878 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Behave yersel min, im a SNP member,,, i would also like to think of my self as vey open to differnt views,,, i would be neither concervitve nor socialist,,, but there are policies on the left and right which appeal to me OK, you've been rumbled. You are either Alex Johnstone, John from Aberdeen or that fat UKIP bampot, which one is it? And don't give us any of that "I voted SNP and YES" bullshit. We all know you are at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Britain getting into the act of extra-judicial killings using drones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Regardless of what anyone says a large amount of yes voters were driven by the idea of nationalism,,, I never claimed it was driven by nationalism only stated a lot of voters would have voted yes who were nationists... You aren't really sure what you're saying. Also the minute you start referring to PC mobs, you might as well have "imbecile" as your strapline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Blut und Boden. Aye suppose i could have just went down that line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Britain getting into the act of extra-judicial killings using drones. It's unreal isn't it. I find it very disturbing that they can execute british citizens without trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 It's unreal isn't it. I find it very disturbing that they can execute british citizens without trial. State sanctioned murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 It's unreal isn't it. I find it very disturbing that they can execute british citizens without trial. We don't even have Capital Punishment. Well next few years all these things will come back and bite us. But they'll think it came out a clear blue sky again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 It's unreal isn't it. I find it very disturbing that they can execute british citizens without trial. Don't be so naive have you not heard about Willie macRea or David kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Are people really trying to say opinions on immigration/refugees/asylum seekers can be correlated to how someone voted in the referendum? That's illogical on a complicated subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjd1972 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Are people really trying to say opinions on immigration/refugees/asylum seekers can be correlated to how someone voted in the referendum? That's illogical on a complicated subject. Not as an absolute, but by and large no voters tend to hold more right wing views on the above issues than those who voted Yes. In summary a left/right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Hopefully starting with Katie Hopkins aye but no £50, map or compass.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Are people really trying to say opinions on immigration/refugees/asylum seekers can be correlated to how someone voted in the referendum? That's illogical on a complicated subject. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) While getting my Barnet chopped my barber (a Kurd and a top lad) went into great detail on the Middle East - grim and fascinating at the same time - he lived in Greece for a number of years before coming to Scotland - he says he loves it in Glasgow (the people being generally welcoming and friendly being the main factor) and will only return home if there's a fully independent Kurdistan. Edited September 9, 2015 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Not as an absolute, but by and large no voters tend to hold more right wing views on the above issues than those who voted Yes. In summary a left/right thing. I don't see any correlation whatsoever, the two things are completely different. For example, on the far left you will have people who eschew all flavours of nationalism. They will see themselves as internationalists, would baulk at being called a nationalist and would generally believe in principle in uncontrolled migration. Some of these would have voted Yes because they would see independence as a means to an end. On the other hand, some would have voted No as they would see Nationalism as dangerous. Then you have the confused Labour Party, as examplied by Andy "Im against all types of Nationalism but I'll fight to defend the UK" Burnham. There are also ethnic Nationalists who are essentially Xenophobic who would have voted Yes. There are a few on these pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 While canvassing for the Yes campaign in Glasgow a few people raised concerns over the SNP's stance on immigration. The policy outlined in the white paper was actually quite moderate; the most radical difference from current UK policy was to advocate the re-introduction of the work/study visa. But this misconception of a Scotland with an open doors immigration policy had got out there and spooked a few (mainly older) folk. The root, of course, could well have been Better Together activists (essentially the local Labour party) who also played the immigration card with asylum seekers and refugees in Knightswood by suggesting their right to remain in Scotland could be in jeopardy if Scotland became independent. I don't know for definite what effect this had on anyone's final decision (although we did return the lowest Yes vote in Glasgow) but while immigration may not have been a major issue for people during the referendum it wasn't completely inconsequential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Does anyone else have a problem with refugees being herded by armed guards onto trains heading for "holding camps"? Not sure what the best approach is but I can see why that doesn't appeal to folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Just watched Sky News...(i know). Refugees being beaten back by Macedonian border guards. Which century is this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres the pies Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Just watched Sky News...(i know). Refugees being beaten back by Macedonian border guards. Which century is this ? aye seen that on channel 4 news the night them guards or police what ever they where did not hang about they where beating them poor folk with great velocity they reckon that in the next few days on them borders that an estimated 40.000 refugees will come flooding through going to be tough for these folk as well with the weather changing now coming into autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dod Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I was just on Facebook for the first time in a few months. I honestly despair. I can see why we lost the referendum. I am disgusted. As ####in loathesome as they are the media still hold an inordinate amount of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I was just on Facebook for the first time in a few months. I honestly despair. I can see why we lost the referendum. I am disgusted. As ####in loathesome as they are the media still hold an inordinate amount of power. You reckon it's only the Unionists that are brainwashed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 From my experience most people are very concerned about the influx of refugees, a close freind who has always been a snp man turned round and said the snp will not be recieving his vote this time round, i have heard other mutterings from other snp voting associates... This whole situation has the potential to stir up politics as we know it from local, scottish, national and the whole eu... Im affraid the tories will come out of this looking like a strong party willing to make tough decisions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 From my experience most people are very concerned about the influx of refugees, a close freind who has always been a snp man turned round and said the snp will not be recieving his vote this time round, i have heard other mutterings from other snp voting associates... This whole situation has the potential to stir up politics as we know it from local, scottish, national and the whole eu... Im affraid the tories will come out of this looking like a strong party willing to make tough decisions... Any reason given ? (In that the SNP have no say at all over immigration matters-well not that I am aware). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 From my experience most people are very concerned about the influx of refugees, a close freind who has always been a snp man turned round and said the snp will not be recieving his vote this time round, i have heard other mutterings from other snp voting associates... This whole situation has the potential to stir up politics as we know it from local, scottish, national and the whole eu... Im affraid the tories will come out of this looking like a strong party willing to make tough decisions...Aye. They'll come out looking that way to racist and xenophobic folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Aye. They'll come out looking that way to racist and xenophobic folk. Look at the Tory & UKIP vote combined in England Over 15 million and nearly 50% of the total UK vote Thats a helluva lot of racists and xenphobes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalka Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Not as an absolute, but by and large no voters tend to hold more right wing views on the above issues than those who voted Yes. In summary a left/right thing.Sorry to upset your illusion but it's just that. Utter bedtime story bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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