Parklife Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Rolling hIlls said: And i have nothing against berti personally. He is a genuine guy. Met him at tesco one day and couldnt have been more nice Right, that one made me laugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, Rolling hIlls said: Just because he douesnt go and sing do a deer makes him a lesser scotsman than u? He wouldn't be able to remember the words anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Parklife said: Right, that one made me laugh! It's true, I was there as well. The fuker just ignored me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Squirrelhumper said: He wouldn't be able to remember the words anyway. Neither can i. But because i cant remember all the words to do a deer yon female deer doesnt make me any less scottish. Mind you when we sang it at wekbley 99 it was good at half time. Even the english applauded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, mrniaboc said: I found this statement a little surprising. It was only 6 years ago that 7 of the 20 clubs in the English Premier League (arguably the best football league in the world) were managed by Scots (in fact possibly all Glaswegians?). So I think we're still able to produce good managers. Doesn't mean we shouldn't expand our horizons, but let's not make arbitrary statements about no-one from our country being good enough. But this the problem, you're wallowing in the past which we are fucking brilliant at, six years is a long time in football, the games moved on, our managers have not. The other thing to highlight is that whilst having seven managers in that league was impressive, let's not remember it as some sort of golden time for Scottish management and coaching because it certainly wasn't. McLeish and Dalglish won a league cup, certainly an achievement but none of them lasted and that's because they were all shit , Ferguson aside. Our managers, like our players have not consistently operated at highest level of the game for years, if we can moan about the lack of talent our players have then by the same token our managers should be judged by the same principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mox said: But this the problem, you're wallowing in the past which we are fucking brilliant at, six years is a long time in football, the games moved on, our managers have not. The other thing to highlight is that whilst having seven managers in that league was impressive, let's not remember it as some sort of golden time for Scottish management and coaching because it certainly wasn't. McLeish and Dalglish won a league cup, certainly an achievement but none of them lasted and that's because they were all shit , Ferguson aside. Our managers, like our players have not consistently operated at highest level of the game for years, if we can moan about the lack of talent our players have then by the same token our managers should be judged by the same principles. Pish. Dalglish was a very good manager. Ask newcastle or liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Mox said: But this the problem, you're wallowing in the past which we are fucking brilliant at, six years is a long time in football, the games moved on, our managers have not. The other thing to highlight is that whilst having seven managers in that league was impressive, let's not remember it as some sort of golden time for Scottish management and coaching because it certainly wasn't. McLeish and Dalglish won a league cup, certainly an achievement but none of them lasted and that's because they were all shit , Ferguson aside. Our managers, like our players have not consistently operated at highest level of the game for years, if we can moan about the lack of talent our players have then by the same token our managers should be judged by the same principles. I understand that point, but I for one do not moan about the lack of talent our players have because I truly believe we do have a bunch of talented players. Obviously not talented enough to take on the big teams, but easily talented enough to beat a large amount of teams and qualify for the Euros. I think we need to find the right person to get the best out of them, and I refuse to believe that football has changed so much in the last few years that suddenly there are no Scots who understand the game. There certainly seem to be a few on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, mrniaboc said: I understand that point, but I for one do not moan about the lack of talent our players have because I truly believe we do have a bunch of talented players. Obviously not talented enough to take on the big teams, but easily talented enough to beat a large amount of teams and qualify for the Euros. I think we need to find the right person to get the best out of them, and I refuse to believe that football has changed so much in the last few years that suddenly there are no Scots who understand the game. There certainly seem to be a few on here... No offence taken! Pub time. This site is making me more mental than big ramy at his bluterist. Where is he anyway? Maybe ormond has reported him 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rolling hIlls said: No offence taken! Pub time. This site is making me more mental than big ramy at his bluterist. Where is he anyway? Maybe ormond has reported him 😕 Haha definitely pub time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest faircity Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Rolling hIlls said: And i have nothing against berti personally. He is a genuine guy. Met him at tesco one day and couldnt have been more nice Did ye, aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Tartan Army are increasingly culpable in the farce that is the national team and SFA. A clean out from top to bottom and a complete rebuild of the SFA power-structure is overdue by at least 10 years. Until the last year or so, the fans just lap it up over and over and over again. But there's still nowhere near enough supporter anger at what is a national disgrace. Every new campaign, fans talk a good campaign but roll up to the turnstiles and hand over their hard earned cash. There should be mass protests, walkouts and boycotts until those in charge across the SFA are ousted. They'll remain untouchable until fans get their shit together and organise co-ordinated, high-profile protests, denying the SFA of major revenue. Parting company with Strachan was right, but appointing a has-been from the old boys network, who's done absolutely nothing in the game for five years, is partly the fault of fans who let the SFA shaft us year after year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Auld_Reekie said: Tartan Army are increasingly culpable in the farce that is the national team and SFA. A clean out from top to bottom and a complete rebuild of the SFA power-structure is overdue by at least 10 years. Until the last year or so, the fans just lap it up over and over and over again. But there's still nowhere near enough supporter anger at what is a national disgrace. Every new campaign, fans talk a good campaign but roll up to the turnstiles and hand over their hard earned cash. There should be mass protests, walkouts and boycotts until those in charge across the SFA are ousted. They'll remain untouchable until fans get their shit together and organise co-ordinated, high-profile protests, denying the SFA of major revenue. Parting company with Strachan was right, but appointing a has-been from the old boys network, who's done absolutely nothing in the game for five years, is partly the fault of fans who let the SFA shaft us year after year after year. THE REVOLUTION WILL BE TELEVISED... on Sky Sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Auld_Reekie said: Tartan Army are increasingly culpable in the farce that is the national team and SFA. A clean out from top to bottom and a complete rebuild of the SFA power-structure is overdue by at least 10 years. Until the last year or so, the fans just lap it up over and over and over again. But there's still nowhere near enough supporter anger at what is a national disgrace. Every new campaign, fans talk a good campaign but roll up to the turnstiles and hand over their hard earned cash. There should be mass protests, walkouts and boycotts until those in charge across the SFA are ousted. They'll remain untouchable until fans get their shit together and organise co-ordinated, high-profile protests, denying the SFA of major revenue. Parting company with Strachan was right, but appointing a has-been from the old boys network, who's done absolutely nothing in the game for five years, is partly the fault of fans who let the SFA shaft us year after year after year. This is spot on. We continue to condone the tripe that we are served up and we reap that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Auld_Reekie said: Tartan Army are increasingly culpable in the farce that is the national team and SFA. A clean out from top to bottom and a complete rebuild of the SFA power-structure is overdue by at least 10 years. Until the last year or so, the fans just lap it up over and over and over again. But there's still nowhere near enough supporter anger at what is a national disgrace. Every new campaign, fans talk a good campaign but roll up to the turnstiles and hand over their hard earned cash. There should be mass protests, walkouts and boycotts until those in charge across the SFA are ousted. They'll remain untouchable until fans get their shit together and organise co-ordinated, high-profile protests, denying the SFA of major revenue. Parting company with Strachan was right, but appointing a has-been from the old boys network, who's done absolutely nothing in the game for five years, is partly the fault of fans who let the SFA shaft us year after year after year. Hitting the nail right on the head. Well said. Start by boycotting matches and the SSC. Edited October 12, 2018 by stewarty66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, stewarty66 said: Hitting the nail right on the head. Well said. Start by boycotting matches and the SSC. surely folk aren't still in that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Auld_Reekie said: Tartan Army are increasingly culpable in the farce that is the national team and SFA. A clean out from top to bottom and a complete rebuild of the SFA power-structure is overdue by at least 10 years. Until the last year or so, the fans just lap it up over and over and over again. But there's still nowhere near enough supporter anger at what is a national disgrace. Every new campaign, fans talk a good campaign but roll up to the turnstiles and hand over their hard earned cash. There should be mass protests, walkouts and boycotts until those in charge across the SFA are ousted. They'll remain untouchable until fans get their shit together and organise co-ordinated, high-profile protests, denying the SFA of major revenue. Parting company with Strachan was right, but appointing a has-been from the old boys network, who's done absolutely nothing in the game for five years, is partly the fault of fans who let the SFA shaft us year after year after year. Tremendous post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Auld_Reekie said: Tartan Army are increasingly culpable in the farce that is the national team and SFA. A clean out from top to bottom and a complete rebuild of the SFA power-structure is overdue by at least 10 years. Until the last year or so, the fans just lap it up over and over and over again. But there's still nowhere near enough supporter anger at what is a national disgrace. Every new campaign, fans talk a good campaign but roll up to the turnstiles and hand over their hard earned cash. There should be mass protests, walkouts and boycotts until those in charge across the SFA are ousted. They'll remain untouchable until fans get their shit together and organise co-ordinated, high-profile protests, denying the SFA of major revenue. Parting company with Strachan was right, but appointing a has-been from the old boys network, who's done absolutely nothing in the game for five years, is partly the fault of fans who let the SFA shaft us year after year after year. They've appointed the wrong manager, but there's a lot of evidence that the performance schools are working. The elite players around 18 and under are way better technically than before. Maybe this is just one final agony before things turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton_Peck Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 A change is badly badly needed.. Im sure though we would just get another cheap option like Lambert.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I was at the match and witnessed the abuse the players and management received, quite correctly. This is the beginning of a different attitude from the fans telling all concerned don't dare serve up this shite again. Don't dare play with no heart or effort. Boycott no, criticism yes. Happy clapping days are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, teecee- said: I was at the match and witnessed the abuse the players and management received, quite correctly. This is the beginning of a different attitude from the fans telling all concerned don't dare serve up this shite again. Don't dare play with no heart or effort. Boycott no, criticism yes. Happy clapping days are gone. Fair play. I got sick of the do a deer dons clapping crowd years ago. But if u know the problems come up with a solution. Its a difficult one. We are a small footballing nation now. Do we need to accept that? No. We need to keep trying. Time to get the rangers supporters back on side. And on that note i am away ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, teecee- said: I was at the match and witnessed the abuse the players and management received, quite correctly. This is the beginning of a different attitude from the fans telling all concerned don't dare serve up this shite again. Don't dare play with no heart or effort. Boycott no, criticism yes. Happy clapping days are gone. Criticism is water off a duck's back to the SFA. Ticket prices have been an issue for a while now. Their response? £35 for a friendly. It's a gravy train for the blazers and their hangers on. McLeish as manager. The car crash nearly everyone said would be. An old boys handshake act after a very public and fruitless pursuit of Michael ONeill. The will they/won't they Hampden/Murrayfield debacle. The unbelievable outcomes of players appealing decisions to a panel. A panel that no one knows who is actually sitting on it. The inability to come out and publicly acknowledge that most of their top referees are not very good. Ian Maxwell. Another patsy. Done zilch since he took over bar pocket a big wage for sitting on his arse. The SFA are corrupt and incompetent to the core and have been taking the piss out of Scotland fans for years. We're a cash cow to them and nothing else. So you go on criticising. I'm boycotting. Hit them in their pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I'm no fan of McLeish, most certainly yesterday's man. But some folk on here calling him a c*nt, bastard, fool, alkie etc need to get a grip. As Auld Reekie puts it eloquently above - its the blazers that should be getting the ire of the fans before the manager/players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 So, what crowd are we expecting for the European Champions? Have a ticket (had to sell a kidney to afford it) but I'm finding watching Countryfile instead quite attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, KirkieRobRoy said: So, what crowd are we expecting for the European Champions? Have a ticket (had to sell a kidney to afford it) but I'm finding watching Countryfile instead quite attractive. 15 to 20,000, I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, KirkieRobRoy said: So, what crowd are we expecting for the European Champions? Have a ticket (had to sell a kidney to afford it) but I'm finding watching Countryfile instead quite attractive. The ground map show it looking fairly full, however it's hard to tell if they've actually sold any tickets behind the goals - I'm guessing not. I'd be surprised if the crowd is greater than 30,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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