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PapofGlencoe

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  1. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    pointless change . if anything a negative in the image stakes given Brown is deputy leader.
  2. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    you're offering everything apart from the choice that 8 of 10 people want. That's at best arrogantly risking all real gains this country has made and at worst treacherous.
  3. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    anybody that would even campaign in such a referendum has their own political ambition ahead of the considered will of the Scottish people. People may have got "cosy". Yeah, well that's the will of the scottish people. You have to deal with reality, not take a gun to their head. They won't take kindly to it.
  4. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    It won't happen for a number of reasons but chiefly because the SNP would rightly be seen as traitors to the people of Scotland for brokering such a "deal".
  5. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    i think the snp have done well last few weeks to keep it in the agenda but until a vote is called nobody's interested. nobody's fault really; people can't be bothered with politics just now. See the phrase "power grab" as well. Whether true or not it comes across a bit loony. they should talk about the substance more. they just say power grab. don't think it's a good phrase.
  6. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    My theory is that most people Yes needs to persuade just don't see the point, to be honest. They don't see the benefits outweighing the risks. They don't deeply care about finding out either. In a fair weather they might just about vote yes but it only if it's the done thing. There will be a good proportion of the No vote who fear a left leaning country but I don't think it's the people that will ever be swayed. The yes campaign need to reach people that don't know who they're MPs are. They're only bothered when a vote is called so much of the present is a phoney war. It doesn't seem to me that many opinions have changed since 2014 and probably won't until a vote is called.
  7. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    The Scottish government will be jumping for joy at the front pages this morning. When the Daily Record looks like a National front page there's something afoot. The Metro was very pro SNP line this morning as well. And will be seen by more.
  8. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    I'm against poverty pay and nucleur weapons amongst other things and see independence as a vehicle to affect positive change. I don't hate my English fiancee. Are you honestly saying that I am personally anti-English because I support Scottish self government? I'm not offended because your argument is ludicrous. I know i'm not the only one that's view is nothing to do with England. At least try and see things from another perspective without comforting yourself in your own preconception. There is definitely an echo chamber here though. I'll give you that.
  9. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    as an aside, that Richard Leonard seems to have his heart in the right place but he's absolutely useless. Dooked into FMQs today which is unusual for me. Rambling on about hummingburds. No leader.
  10. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    Totally agree about Brian Taylor. Hopefully a wee turn is in the air. Not sure how much of an impact Reporting Scotland has these days; I don't boycott it or anything but -like all news programs - it's becoming less influential in most people's lives. Think there is a little bit of a wind change afoot though. The SNP needed to stir the pot a bit and get it up the news agenda. The biggest threat the SNP has had recently is they were becoming peripheral on a UK level.
  11. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    Does it matter? thought the international law of the seas sorted that all out in the event it ever truly mattered to anybody.
  12. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    Best of both worlds..if it can be achieved. It's a perfectly legitimate and non-treacherous opinion in my view. Even if I don't agree. Nowadays the Tories and most Labour MPs in Scotland are anti-independence first and policy second. It has not always been so.
  13. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    The only reason Scotland isn't independent right now is the Scottish people themselves. Dewar didn't believe in independence but he did believe in Scotland having a voice. This is an outrage bigger than petty squables and a strong Scottish Labour leader is needed to defend devolution alongside the SNP. The Dewars, McLeishs, Malcolm Chisolms etc were/are an important part of our make up as a nation. I can't believe someone of that ilk would have sat on his hands as Ian Murray et al did yesterday. An absolute shower.
  14. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    how is not letting any Scottish MPs speak any better? even if you disagree with them on independence, they've still a job to do in the Parliament you presumably care about. Not everything the Tories are doing is in our interest ffs
  15. PapofGlencoe

    Indy Ref 2

    well done SNP. The procedure to deceptively block Scottish MPs of any party time in the debate was undemocratic and it required a response. It's not even about the SNP. Whether you agree with independence or the SNP or not; surely it's important that the country is heard? What we could do with a Donald Dewar now.
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