euan2020 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 3 hours ago, adamntg said: They'll be expecting a Boris government to replace those subsidies from the EU in full. Guy I saw interviewed (also at Highland Show) reckoned 76% of Scottish farmers income comes directly or indirectly from Brussels. Which sounds insane, but that's what he said. Sounds incorrect - maybe 76% of farmers have an income from Brussels I think 20% of their income sounds more accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 7 hours ago, euan2020 said: Sounds incorrect - maybe 76% of farmers have an income from Brussels I think 20% of their income sounds more accurate I know, but I checked it out and it's in various places - 74%. There's a link further up this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 22 minutes ago, adamntg said: I know, but I checked it out and it's in various places - 74%. There's a link further up this thread. I think we are using different language your comments suggested that 74% of income was subsidies I am suggesting 74% of income is from europe and 20% of this income is subsidies - CAP which is effectively UK contributions redistributed ie Selling lamb etc to the French would be income from Europe but not subsidies sorry, if what i said was not clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 20 hours ago, Toepoke said: Have a read at the comments here, pure rage! https://uk.news.yahoo.com/nicola-sturgeon-warns-scotland-could-134720488.html Had to stop reading that after 3 comments. I have high blood pressure. Not worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 5 hours ago, euan2020 said: I think we are using different language your comments suggested that 74% of income was subsidies I am suggesting 74% of income is from europe and 20% of this income is subsidies - CAP which is effectively UK contributions redistributed ie Selling lamb etc to the French would be income from Europe but not subsidies sorry, if what i said was not clear I think you're right. Here's the link : http://www.scotsman.com/news/nfu-warn-of-brexit-impact-on-scottish-farmers-1-4157189 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, adamntg said: I think you're right. Here's the link : http://www.scotsman.com/news/nfu-warn-of-brexit-impact-on-scottish-farmers-1-4157189 I'm basing the 20% on having a quick look at my brothers books a while back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, McDange said: Stupid old Tories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Point to note : When it comes to the 2nd independence referendum, do everything to make sure that the under-30's come out and vote. Edited June 27, 2016 by Rossy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Is there turn out by age yet? Be interested to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Jim Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 hour ago, phart said: Is there turn out by age yet? Be interested to see that. Think I heard 18-24s was 38% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 22 hours ago, DoonTheSlope said: As soon as people resort to accusations of racism, xenophobia or whatever then they have lost the argument, usually the same folk who pick up on grammar and spelling errors Even when people are being racist and xenophobic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Scottish Labour seeks possibility of staying in EU and UK https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/27/scottish-labour-seeks-possibility-federal-uk-brexit-aftermath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, exile said: Scottish Labour seeks possibility of staying in EU and UK https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/27/scottish-labour-seeks-possibility-federal-uk-brexit-aftermath More shite, London might try and stay part of Europe as well, I have never heard so much shite, the U.K. Voted to leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 We are not going to leave the EU regardless of all thats happened Peter Hitchens was right many months ago that it was all horseshit Merkel is giving the UK space for it to change its mind Blundering Boris is now mellowing and realises he has been a dick We have already had suggestions that Parliament might ignore the referendum being quashed but now we are getting Jeremy Hunt saying we should renegotiate and have another referendum or renegotiate then have another general election This Tory coup has caused some amount of carnage throughout Europe though with £ billions lost - not to mention how it's going to affect our food prices , pensions and public services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36650014 great way to start the brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new hugh Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 #Scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Offfttt. The reaction is hugely encouraging. Where the EU sat on it's hands in 2014, might then now see Scotland as a champion of the EU and seek to exploit Scottish independence as a "f*** you" to Westminster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36650014 great way to start the brexit He's an absolute arse, they'll be delighted to see the back of him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Of course they will. Breaking up the UK is a fitting punishment and a relatively easy one to achieve now and all within a fairly short time. That will send a message of do not think about leaving to the others. Bound to happen now. Farrage going there and rubbing their noses in it is very good news for us. Hopefully he really pisses them off (further) to the point they wildly support us staying in as a GRFUY in return. The standing ovation to what was a poorly delivered speech is a big indicator of things to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) If you take Scotland & NI out the picture (let's assume they decide to stay) then England voted nearly 54% in favour of leaving on a large turnout. You are not going to be able to ignore that and if you do there will be a massive backlash at the ballot box. Possibly in favour of UKIP. They are going to have to leave. They could use Scotland leaving as an excuse to void it though but even then that will not be enough. They are in real deep shit and they know it. The smart thing would have been to renege on the manifesto promise. That would have been bad but nothing compared to this explosion of fukkedness. What a state the country is in post Leave vote. I can't ever remember it being more of a mess politically. Edited June 28, 2016 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 It's interesting reading what people thik is going and went through the minds of Cameron, Cove and Johnson etc but I think it's a bit naive to think these people made glaring blunders, in terms of who really runs the country, these guys are just the public figures, there's an agenda in the background that we'll likely never be part of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: It's interesting reading what people thik is going and went through the minds of Cameron, Cove and Johnson etc but I think it's a bit naive to think these people made glaring blunders, in terms of who really runs the country, these guys are just the public figures, there's an agenda in the background that we'll likely never be part of. Dinnae question the great one on his own board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Just now, Scunnered said: Dinnae question the great one on his own board! I'll offer my resignation immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 23 minutes ago, Scunnered said: Dinnae question the great one on his own board! I think he has been promoted to Shadow Scottish Secretary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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