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41 minutes ago, Rich NATA said:

Liz Truss has broken cover with an "Extraordinarily self-pitying" 4000 word piece in the Sunday Telegraph. Blaming the left-wing economic establishment... Like the Treasury 😆

 

If in doubt, just use the words left wing or woke, eh Liz?

That sounds like 3999 more words than she she could have strung together herself . 

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1 hour ago, TDYER63 said:

That sounds like 3999 more words than she she could have strung together herself . 

Turns out you are right

Private Eye did a piss take a while back "how the looney left radical socialist Masters of the Universe Bond managers in the City had bought her down"

 

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37 minutes ago, EddardStark said:

Re QT.
 

Must admit I‘m very much on the side of the biological aspect of the Trans debate but the panellist called India got some horrible treatment from the audience and free speech panelist (can’t remember her name)  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ella Whelan - and the shit has hit the fan on how the BBC portrayed her

She is no supporter of Women's rights for starters

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6 minutes ago, Orraloon said:

Some folk really do get overcome with their hatred of other folk. Anybody know anything about these geezers? Probably life long SNP members

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/william-curtis-threatened-to-assassinate-first-minister-nicola-sturgeon-and-abducted-sheriff

 

Former fisherman ?

Aberdeenshire ?

Shared the murder of anti Brexit Jo Cox to what Sturgeon deserved for her "Treason" ?

Doubtful

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7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

Former fisherman ?

Aberdeenshire ?

Shared the murder of anti Brexit Jo Cox to what Sturgeon deserved for her "Treason" ?

Doubtful

Wasn't being serious, but some of these types like to claim that they are. There might even be some of them on the TAMB? 😉

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27 minutes ago, Orraloon said:

Wasn't being serious, but some of these types like to claim that they are. There might even be some of them on the TAMB? 😉

From the same neck of the woods?

That pair sound mental.

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1 hour ago, Orraloon said:

Some folk really do get overcome with their hatred of other folk. Anybody know anything about these geezers? Probably life long SNP members? 

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/william-curtis-threatened-to-assassinate-first-minister-nicola-sturgeon-and-abducted-sheriff

 

Think they have been watching Eastenders too long.

Jurors at the High Court in Glasgow also ruled that Curtis and another man, Philip Mitchell, 60, assaulted and abducted a sheriff in a car park in Banff, Aberdeenshire, in June 2021.

 

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1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said:

 

It's absolutely soul destroying

All she needed to say was "He is a man and a rapist who is faking it and there are procedures in place to weed these individuals out"

However the extreme position she has taken on this does not allow her to say this because Isla Bryson identifies himself as a woman 

She has not only finished herself but also severely damaged Independence

The modus operandi of the SNP should always be "do not give the opposition ammunition"

That seems to be lost on her

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1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said:

It's absolutely soul destroying

All she needed to say was "He is a man and a rapist who is faking it and there are procedures in place to weed these individuals out"

However the extreme position she has taken on this does not allow her to say this because Isla Bryson identifies himself as a woman 

She has not only finished herself but also severely damaged Independence

The modus operandi of the SNP should always be "do not give the opposition ammunition"

That seems to be lost on her

It also seems to be lost on those who defend her every move.

Sad as she has/ had the ability to lead Scotland to independence but doesn't seem to really want to. Taking such a extreme position on this certainly isn't helping her approval ratings/nor suoport for indy.

Weird hill to die on but here we are 

Not sure how her refusing to say he's a man, that's a rapist and clearly at it is in any way helping actual genuine cases of people wgi wish to change sex for legitimate reasons. If anything she's only feeding crackpots like Wings 

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2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said:

It also seems to be lost on those who defend her every move.

Sad as she has/ had the ability to lead Scotland to independence but doesn't seem to really want to. Taking such a extreme position on this certainly isn't helping her approval ratings/nor suoport for indy.

Weird hill to die on but here we are 

Not sure how her refusing to say he's a man, that's a rapist and clearly at it is in any way helping actual genuine cases of people wgi wish to change sex for legitimate reasons. If anything she's only feeding crackpots like Wings 

Its a difficult position to take though as presumably she has never met the person so she is in no position to say with any certainty.

Its a minefield no matter what she says.

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3 hours ago, Ally Bongo said:

It's absolutely soul destroying

All she needed to say was "He is a man and a rapist who is faking it and there are procedures in place to weed these individuals out"

However the extreme position she has taken on this does not allow her to say this because Isla Bryson identifies himself as a woman 

She has not only finished herself but also severely damaged Independence

The modus operandi of the SNP should always be "do not give the opposition ammunition"

That seems to be lost on her

It was an issue that could easily have been sidestepped too.  They've done it with other manifesto promises - like the national energy company - but have, for some reason, persevered with this instead. 

It was obvious that the legislation was controversial at best and had the potential to be twisted and blown out of proportion by their opponents. That the same process has been enacted successfully in other countries doesn't matter - these countries are not trying to gain independence from a much bigger neighbour where most of their media are based - and naturally, those facts go largely unreported.

I'm starting to wonder if this is going to turn out to be Sturgeon's poll tax moment.  At least the poll tax was an issue that affected everybody.

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56 minutes ago, scotlad said:

 

I'm starting to wonder if this is going to turn out to be Sturgeon's poll tax moment.  At least the poll tax was an issue that affected everybody.

Certainly starting to look they way. I think she was of the view it would have been seen as scotland being this progressive country and would set her a job elsewhere in time when he steps down. She's been extremely naive IMO and now trying herself in knots. 

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2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Certainly starting to look they way. I think she was of the view it would have been seen as scotland being this progressive country and would set her a job elsewhere in time when he steps down. She's been extremely naive IMO and now trying herself in knots. 

Aye, quite possibly.

Disingenuously the press have failed to mention the cross-party support for the bill; Labour, Lib Dems and the Greens are barely if ever mentioned.  No great shock, though, it's Sturgeon's scalp they're after.

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15 hours ago, Ally Bongo said:

It's absolutely soul destroying

All she needed to say was "He is a man and a rapist who is faking it and there are procedures in place to weed these individuals out"

However the extreme position she has taken on this does not allow her to say this because Isla Bryson identifies himself as a woman 

She has not only finished herself but also severely damaged Independence

The modus operandi of the SNP should always be "do not give the opposition ammunition"

That seems to be lost on her

Your asking the SNP to be absolutely perfect, you're asking the impossible. The opposition will always find some sort of ammo against the SNP. If anyone is turned off Independence because of gender reform or because sturgeon didn't call someone he, they were never really up for it in the first place. See malcolm as the perfect example, these voters wants some sort of utopia where everything they desire is delivered if Independence is won. The slightest lean to the left or right by the snp loses votes because so many don't understand what Independence is.

 

 

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