daviebee Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 We've been there 3 times and laboured to 2-0 victories each time. I think the last time we were there we didnae score until aboot 15 minutes to go. That was with far better players as well. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Tbh I think I'd prefer a defeat. A grim, laboured 2-0 will just prolong this clearly broken setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, daviebee said: We've been there 3 times and laboured to 2-0 victories each time. I think the last time we were there we didnae score until aboot 15 minutes to go. That was with far better players as well. Just saying. You're dead right. It could be very nervous, and the longer we go without scoring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 It would be hilarious and The Jakeball would no doubt still survive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 If the whistle goes for half time and it's 0-0 or 0-1 to San Marino, I could see things getting ugly and someone running into the dugout to have it out with McLeish. Not that I would condone that kind of behaviour mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I had a strange impending doom sensation before the previous match and I'm getting the same now. I think it'll end 0:0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yes, but blessing in disguise is just round the corner. Gotta pull the plug after that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lairdyfaeinverclyde Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yes. I have been worried about every game since McLeish got the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 If Fraser plays well then I think we will be okay. It's breaking teams down that we find hard and there isn't much creativity in this squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Despite Thursday, I don't see anything but a 5.0 minimum win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo cop Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yes worried that we might score a few goals ang all is forgiven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: If Fraser plays well then I think we will be okay. It's breaking teams down that we find hard and there isn't much creativity in this squad. Even on Thursday Burke got into dangerous positions a couple of time but there was nobody with any desire in the box wanting the ball, it was like they were waiting for the ball to come to them. If Fraser plays along with Robertson we will hump San Marino. Now that the dust has settled I still think we have a good team, we lack depth but what is certain we need strong management to get these players to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Even on Thursday Burke got into dangerous positions a couple of time but there was nobody with any desire in the box wanting the ball, it was like they were waiting for the ball to come to them. If Fraser plays along with Robertson we will hump San Marino. Now that the dust has settled I still think we have a good team, we lack depth but what is certain we need strong management to get these players to play I think that is a fair comment. RB is the big weakness. I'm not a big O'Donnell fan but he should be starting ahead of an uncapped Palmer. CB isn't great and we probably need an experienced player alongside McKenna or Bates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, PASTA Mick said: I think that is a fair comment. RB is the big weakness. I'm not a big O'Donnell fan but he should be starting ahead of an uncapped Palmer. CB isn't great and we probably need an experienced player alongside McKenna or Bates. I actually liked the McKenna and Mulgrew partnership for CB, its not great but its the best we have. As much as I want him to stay at Aberdeen, Mckenna needs to move and develop further. O'Donnell at RB is fine with me for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: CB isn't great and we probably need an experienced player alongside McKenna or Bates. Or play an experienced player alongside McKenna AND bates. Fuck me, we get ripped apart by KAZAKSHSTAN whilst playing a back four and people are still convinced that we can play with a flat back four... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Maybe but I don’t really care anymore. I’ll watch it still more out of habit that anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Fraser, even though i currently hate him, will make a difference, as will Robertson. I’d probably go with Paterson at right back as he is dangerous at set pieces and we may struggle to score. If Kazakhstan draw with Russia it gives us a small chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: I still think we have a good team You're wrong. We don't have a good team, I think the previous match was evidence of this. And you're saying that we need strong management in order to get the players to play? Yeah, well, if they were good players who CARED they wouldn't need motivation. Representing their country should be all they motivation they need to beat a team ranked 114 in the world. It's about time we stopped pointing the finger at the manager and began blaming the players. There was an incident in the match where two Kazakhstan players head-butted each other whilst competing for a high ball, funnily enough we had no players in the vicinity as they might get hurt. Our players are not only spineless but they're also below average. But wait till the SPL gets underway again, Christie and McGregor will begin dominating St Mirren and Dundee and then all of a sudden Scotland fans will paint them as our Pirlo and Iniesta. Same old Scotland, always delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 12 hours ago, daviebee said: We've been there 3 times and laboured to 2-0 victories each time. I think the last time we were there we didnae score until aboot 15 minutes to go. That was with far better players as well. Just saying. Remember that last game well. It was the coldest fitba match I’ve ever been at. I remember some smart Alec tookhis top off at kick off and said he wasn’t putting it back on until we scored (clearly thinking we’d score straight away). He was nearly hypothermic by the time we scored after about 70 odd minutes 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I am not that worried about Sunday, because the biggest damage has already been done. Either the players will respond and get three points (however ugly - which could be handy for whoever takes us forward), or anything else than that and there must surely be the end to the status quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Chripper said: But wait till the SPL gets underway again, Christie and McGregor will begin dominating St Mirren and Dundee and then all of a sudden Scotland fans will paint them as our Pirlo and Iniesta. Same old Scotland, always delusional. Nobody thinks that though do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Maybe but I don’t really care anymore. I’ll watch it still more out of habit that anything else. Same. Might sound strange but I don't want us to win. What's the point? Seriously. We lose to Kazakhstan and then we beat San Marino... bit deal. Another campaign is finished before It even really begins. Russia and Belgium will batter Kazakhstan home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just now, ParisInAKilt said: Nobody thinks that though do they? Of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just now, ParisInAKilt said: Nobody thinks that though do they? Well, maybe not Pirlo and Iniesta, but a lot of people do think that they have a strong midfield. Countless times I've read people saying "We're well stocked with midfielders". I can't fathom that opinion. In the build up to the previous match someone said that our midfield will boss the game... I can only hope that that was said in jest, otherwise a lunatic asylum has lost a patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, Chripper said: You're wrong. We don't have a good team, I think the previous match was evidence of this. And you're saying that we need strong management in order to get the players to play? Yeah, well, if they were good players who CARED they wouldn't need motivation. Representing their country should be all they motivation they need to beat a team ranked 114 in the world. It's about time we stopped pointing the finger at the manager and began blaming the players. There was an incident in the match where two Kazakhstan players head-butted each other whilst competing for a high ball, funnily enough we had no players in the vicinity as they might get hurt. Our players are not only spineless but they're also below average. But wait till the SPL gets underway again, Christie and McGregor will begin dominating St Mirren and Dundee and then all of a sudden Scotland fans will paint them as our Pirlo and Iniesta. Same old Scotland, always delusional. a good manager can get even average players to perform better or a different approach can get good players to perform better. In an ideal world these players would be self motivated but this isn't an ideal world, its a footballing world where the players will easily down tools and take the huff because they do not like the manager. There's recent examples of a good change in management having a great effect on teams, Northern Ireland are performing better than us with arguably worse players, Killie were garbage and now Steve clark has them playing way above what anyone expected. Those are good examples of average sides punching above their weight due to good management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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