tartanmartin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Just backed Gemmell at 4s. 18s this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ormond Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, tartanmartin said: I'm led to believe that Clarke is now open to hearing what the SFA have to offer. I'd still be surprised if anyone other than Gemmill gets appointed at least in the short term. Where do you come up wae yer “I know inside stuff” bollocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, tartanmartin said: 18s this morning That the oddschecker link, it's been wrong for weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanmartin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 What's it to do with you? Up to you if you believe it. I knew about McLeish's issues when he was appointed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, tartanmartin said: What's it to do with you? Up to you if you believe it. I knew about McLeish's issues when he was appointed though. What issues ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I can see Gemmill getting it. If all else fails, try and copy England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanmartin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 It's in this thread around the time he got the gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanmartin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, PASTA Mick said: I can see Gemmill getting it. If all else fails, try and copy England. Me too. Poor guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 There are plenty countries with similar populations and weather challenges to us who seem to do well and punch well above their weight. I wonder what the captain of the Viking Sky is doing now. Perhaps it’s time to go Scandinavian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Can the board maybe accept applications for the job this time. Im sick of the useless cvnts going for the same tired Scottish wankers that always get mentioned, despite being failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I just hop they don't rush into another jobs for the boys appointment. Take your time and get the right person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmcn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, tartanmartin said: I'm led to believe that Clarke is now open to hearing what the SFA have to offer. I'd still be surprised if anyone other than Gemmill gets appointed at least in the short term. There would be no point of a short term appointment. The qualifying campaign is already close to a shambles after just 2 games, we need a permanent appointment asap so that we can hopefully rescue what's left. The next game against Cyprus is already a must win, we can't afford another slip up. But, aye, Gemmill wouldn't surprise me. Edited April 18, 2019 by stevenmcn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz7 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 steve clarke has done hee haw other than get kilmarnock to maybe 3rd or 4th same as mcinnes with aberdeen. stinks of same as levein when he got it coz ge got hearts to there. 2 men who arent tasked with winning. i for one would not be happy with anyone like that. mediocrity has been here a while and looks like continuing. away back into hibernation if any of the current bookies favourites get it. we need someone imo to excite us to get a full house against cyprus then the players that we have will take care of the rest. we actually do have good players but we need a manager where they all think fukn hell hes the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, gaz7 said: steve clarke has done hee haw other than get kilmarnock to maybe 3rd or 4th same as mcinnes with aberdeen. stinks of same as levein when he got it coz ge got hearts to there. 2 men who arent tasked with winning. i for one would not be happy with anyone like that. mediocrity has been here a while and looks like continuing. away back into hibernation if any of the current bookies favourites get it. we need someone imo to excite us to get a full house against cyprus then the players that we have will take care of the rest. we actually do have good players but we need a manager where they all think fukn hell hes the man. Paul Dickov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p gala ta Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Steve Clark for me, he has done brilliantly with a group of bang ordinary players, no offence meant to Killie fans. Scotland have some pretty decent players who just need proper tactics and organisation, similar to what has brought success to Iceland and N. Ireland . Clark fits the bill . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmcn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 hours ago, gaz7 said: steve clarke has done hee haw other than get kilmarnock to maybe 3rd or 4th same as mcinnes with aberdeen. stinks of same as levein when he got it coz ge got hearts to there. 2 men who arent tasked with winning. i for one would not be happy with anyone like that. mediocrity has been here a while and looks like continuing. away back into hibernation if any of the current bookies favourites get it. we need someone imo to excite us to get a full house against cyprus then the players that we have will take care of the rest. we actually do have good players but we need a manager where they all think fukn hell hes the man. Only got Killie to 3rd or 4th, is that all 😂😂😂. They were fighting relegation every season before he came in, now they're playing for a place in Europe. Oh and the fact that he's managed at a pretty decent level, and coached and been respected by world class players as Mourinho's assistant at Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Sick of all this PC shite, Malkay Mackay it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 6 hours ago, kumnio said: Can the board maybe accept applications for the job this time. Im sick of the useless cvnts going for the same tired Scottish wankers that always get mentioned, despite being failures. No. Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 hours ago, p gala ta said: Steve Clark for me, he has done brilliantly with a group of bang ordinary players, no offence meant to Killie fans. Scotland have some pretty decent players who just need proper tactics and organisation, similar to what has brought success to Iceland and N. Ireland . Clark fits the bill . Malky McKay did the same with Cardiff. Fits the bill just as well as Clarke. But the PC brigade won’t hear of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmcn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I feel that McLeish has been that much of a failure that as long as the next manager isn't Strachan or Levein, I'm not going to be too upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome22Devil Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 7 hours ago, stevenmcn said: There would be no point of a short term appointment. The qualifying campaign is already close to a shambles after just 2 games, we need a permanent appointment asap so that we can hopefully rescue what's left. The next game against Cyprus is already a must win, we can't afford another slip up. But, aye, Gemmill wouldn't surprise me. Interesting because I would take the completely opposite view - to me there is absolutely no point in making a long-term appointment. We're in a unique situation firstly because of how the new play-offs work and then because of how Euro 2020 - and only this edition - works if we make it. Given how football changes you can never say never but it will probably be generations before we have such a structural advantage to do this well again. The success or failure of our next manager will be defined exclusively on winning or losing the play-offs. Nothing else. (We obviously don't have a prayer of finishing ahead of Belgium and tbh even knocking off Russia would be a big shock). So we don't need anyone to develop youngsters or who has a long-term vision - indeed, if such a manager exists and is available, there's a strong case to be made for not risking him in two all or nothing play-offs. We need the best internationally experienced coach we can afford, on a contract to April 1, 2020, with an extension to July if we win the play-offs. Realistically this means a foreigner - Bilic, Dardai, whoever, take your pick. Fail and we pick a long-term option in April next year, succeed and we pick the long-term option three months later. Whoever got us there would obviously be welcome to apply but it would be a different job description - they may not be interested or suitable. Sadly, however, I have as little confidence of the SFA in getting this appointment right any other! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandWintheWorldCup Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 hours ago, stevenmcn said: Only got Killie to 3rd or 4th, is that all 😂😂😂. They were fighting relegation every season before he came in, now they're playing for a place in Europe. Oh and the fact that he's managed at a pretty decent level, and coached and been respected by world class players as Mourinho's assistant at Chelsea. I think Steve Clarke with his man management and tactical skills could get us a result against Russia both home and away. If we win at Hampden 1-0 and draw0-0 away like in 95 we would be back into this group. Mon Clarkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeJohnny Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 So exactly what are our expectations. Some of the posts on here in the last three years are just bonkers. Who are we expecting to get ? Klopp ? The guy / woman who has just posted saying anybody but Strachan needs a reality check. Look at his record as manager. He is a fan as well as REALLY wanting the job. Look at the players that were desperately upset at letting him down. And they almost all showed up. We were for the first time for a generation on an upward trajectory until that remit Regan stepped in. One bad pass and we would have beaten England and have a play off. So if your going to put him down have a FEcking good alternative that will do it for £400k. I bet if you asked Strachan to do it for free for 6 months he would but that would be lining the blazers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmcn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, WeeJohnny said: So exactly what are our expectations. Some of the posts on here in the last three years are just bonkers. Who are we expecting to get ? Klopp ? The guy / woman who has just posted saying anybody but Strachan needs a reality check. Look at his record as manager. He is a fan as well as REALLY wanting the job. Look at the players that were desperately upset at letting him down. And they almost all showed up. We were for the first time for a generation on an upward trajectory until that remit Regan stepped in. One bad pass and we would have beaten England and have a play off. So if your going to put him down have a FEcking good alternative that will do it for £400k. I bet if you asked Strachan to do it for free for 6 months he would but that would be lining the blazers. I think most people's expectations are a manager who hasn't already failed in two qualifying groups and someone capable of beating Lithuania at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmcn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Handsome22Devil said: Interesting because I would take the completely opposite view - to me there is absolutely no point in making a long-term appointment. We're in a unique situation firstly because of how the new play-offs work and then because of how Euro 2020 - and only this edition - works if we make it. Given how football changes you can never say never but it will probably be generations before we have such a structural advantage to do this well again. The success or failure of our next manager will be defined exclusively on winning or losing the play-offs. Nothing else. (We obviously don't have a prayer of finishing ahead of Belgium and tbh even knocking off Russia would be a big shock). So we don't need anyone to develop youngsters or who has a long-term vision - indeed, if such a manager exists and is available, there's a strong case to be made for not risking him in two all or nothing play-offs. We need the best internationally experienced coach we can afford, on a contract to April 1, 2020, with an extension to July if we win the play-offs. Realistically this means a foreigner - Bilic, Dardai, whoever, take your pick. Fail and we pick a long-term option in April next year, succeed and we pick the long-term option three months later. Whoever got us there would obviously be welcome to apply but it would be a different job description - they may not be interested or suitable. Sadly, however, I have as little confidence of the SFA in getting this appointment right any other! I feel a lot of people seem to want to write off this group and just rely on the play off as if it's a certainty. Personally, I'd rather get the best guy in now, do what we can in this group, even if it's just getting confidence back, then see what we get from the play offs. But yes, it's difficult to see the SFA making the right choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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