macy37 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 You're lot are just as bad! Was it 2 gingy bottles and a 10p mix they offered for James McFadden before he went to Everton for £1.75 million? (IIRC Celtic actually wanted a 6 month loan with an option to buy! ) Nothing wrong with not over spending... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'm not on about the valuation of Telfer. I am merely pointing out the rank hypocrisy and hysteria of some fans. Its Rangers. I get it. Surely using Charlie Telfer as an example makes Rangers the hypocrites? precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 At the end of the day if he has 18 months left then its up to saints. they can reject the offer and tell ohalloran to get on with it i guess but risk losing him for less later on i suppose. ohalloran would do well just to get on with whatever is decided. if he doesnt go now he will probably get a decent move in the summer if he wants it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 My original beef was more to do with the Daily Record than Rangers. They clearly help Rangers and Celtic in these situations. I get it in relation to all clubs do it at some level, where the hypocrisy comes into play is when bigger clubs like Norwich, Southampton etc come tapping their players. Also, you cant simply dismiss concerns about offering low amounts for players by citing people would be complaining if you were offering over the odds. Rangers are using their influence to deliberately undervalue players. Fair business for them, but it is providing them with an unfair advantage in signing due to the additional help of the west coast frothing media. Look how much Brentford paid for Lewis McLeod and then compare against what they are offering for O'Halloran and tried to sign Scott Allan for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 My original beef was more to do with the Daily Record than Rangers. They clearly help Rangers and Celtic in these situations. I get it in relation to all clubs do it at some level, where the hypocrisy comes into play is when bigger clubs like Norwich, Southampton etc come tapping their players. Also, you cant simply dismiss concerns about offering low amounts for players by citing people would be complaining if you were offering over the odds. Rangers are using their influence to deliberately undervalue players. Fair business for them, but it is providing them with an unfair advantage in signing due to the additional help of the west coast frothing media. Look how much Brentford paid for Lewis McLeod and then compare against what they are offering for O'Halloran and tried to sign Scott Allan for. Again it's not like for like. Transfer values in England are probably double what they realistically should be (see Virgil Van Dyke). As I stated earlier I think GMS to Celtic is a more valid comparison. Also, Rangers using their influence to deliberately undervalue players didn't exactly work in the Scott Allan situation did it? (That's worked out well for him). There's a lot of hysteria about nothing here. Rangers have put bids in, St Johnstone have rejected them. Unless Rangers come back with an acceptable bid St Johnstone don't have to sell. If they do sell then it's obviously for an amount that they feel is acceptable. The ball is entirely in St Johnstone's court here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Again it's not like for like. Transfer values in England are probably double what they realistically should be (see Virgil Van Dyke). As I stated earlier I think GMS to Celtic is a more valid comparison. Also, Rangers using their influence to deliberately undervalue players didn't exactly work in the Scott Allan situation did it? (That's worked out well for him). There's a lot of hysteria about nothing here. Rangers have put bids in, St Johnstone have rejected them. Unless Rangers come back with an acceptable bid St Johnstone don't have to sell. If they do sell then it's obviously for an amount that they feel is acceptable. The ball is entirely in St Johnstone's court here. GMS had less than 6 months of his contract to run, Dundee utd had the choice of accepting £200k or getting nothing for him 3 months later. O'Hallaron has 18 months left, not like for like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 GMS had less than 6 months of his contract to run, Dundee utd had the choice of accepting £200k or getting nothing for him 3 months later. O'Hallaron has 18 months left, not like for like.It will never be like for like as no 2 players are the same.As has been said St Johnstone are well within their rights to tell Rangers to feck off if they want. They can also negotiate or just sell. Whatever they do is up to them. Rangers only way of influencing this is by their bids. Nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Rangers manager Mark Warburton roars: We will NOT be held to ransom by St Johnstone over Michael O'Halloran Of course he doesn't actually say that but my god you have to love the Record sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Rangers bid £250k for Naisy firs ttime round. They are withing their rights to do so but they do it to try and unsettle the player. We said all along it would take £2m to get him and that's what we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Kevin Thomson has left Dens. Very good player when fit, which was very rarely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Kevin Thomson has left Dens. Very good player when fit, which was very rarely. I'd take him at Ibrox if there was any chance of him staying fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Rangers bid £250k for Naisy firs ttime round. They are withing their rights to do so but they do it to try and unsettle the player. We said all along it would take £2m to get him and that's what we got. I'm not having a go at you at all but it seems that Rangers got criticised in the past for paying over the odds for players and when we try and cut our cloth, we get accused of being cheapskates! Kevin Thomson has left Dens. Very good player when fit, which was very rarely. Maybe a surprise to some but he's one of my favourite Rangers players of recent times. I'd like to take him on a deal till the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Aberdeen have taken in Adam Collin on loan from Rotherham for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'd take him at Ibrox if there was any chance of him staying fit. Beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Kevin Thomson has left Dens. Very good player when fit, which was very rarely. Shame his career had pretty much fizzled out by the time he was 27. He was in brilliant form for Hibs and then Rangers between 2006 and 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Kevin Thomson has left Dens. Very good player when fit, which was very rarely. Was there any reason given? Excellent player but suspect his cost wasn't worth the game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'm not having a go at you at all but it seems that Rangers got criticised in the past for paying over the odds for players and when we try and cut our cloth, we get accused of being cheapskates! Much like fans will sing you're not Rangers anymore Then in the 2nd half sing same old Rangers, alwayss cheating. We're a shower of fickle hypocrites! Although, when it came to wasting big money, it was usually on foreign diddies as opposed to Scottish ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Of course he doesn't actually say that but my god you have to love the Record sometimes Aye what he actually said was, 'I'm not going to talk about a player that is under contract with someone else'. Likewise I'm a huge admirer of Kevin Thomson. A great pro and very good player. Just a shame he was Plagued by so many injuries. As has been said above I would easily have him with us until the end of the season. We definitely lack a bit of dig in that department. As for O'Hallorran I posted months ago that I would be very happy for us to try and get him, and I'm also pleased that we are finally starting to exercise a bit of caution as far as transfer fees go. The comments on here about it are predictable, especially from the Hibbies, who have now adopted the 'everything favours Rangers, the whole world is against us' mantra. Still It's a welcome change from the Tims doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) I've always rated Thomson, but, always feel he is prone to a completely brain dead needless booking! His 2nd yellow in the league cup final v St Mirren summed this up. He nailed the boy at the corner flag, and you could see it coming before he got out the centre circle. Would be a great player for a team that could keep him fit, or use him sparingly. *fact checked that, and it was actually a straight red, and nearer the halfway line than the corner flag. Point still stands mind you. 2 mins in if you're interested... Edited January 15, 2016 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Again it's not like for like. Transfer values in England are probably double what they realistically should be (see Virgil Van Dyke). As I stated earlier I think GMS to Celtic is a more valid comparison. Also, Rangers using their influence to deliberately undervalue players didn't exactly work in the Scott Allan situation did it? (That's worked out well for him). There's a lot of hysteria about nothing here. Rangers have put bids in, St Johnstone have rejected them. Unless Rangers come back with an acceptable bid St Johnstone don't have to sell. If they do sell then it's obviously for an amount that they feel is acceptable. The ball is entirely in St Johnstone's court here. It's not really anything like the GMS situation. O'Halloran still has 18 months left on his contract, whereas GMS had only 6 and had already agreed a pre contract to join Celtic in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Much like fans will sing you're not Rangers anymore Then in the 2nd half sing same old Rangers, alwayss cheating. We're a shower of fickle hypocrites! Although, when it came to wasting big money, it was usually on foreign diddies as opposed to Scottish ones! Same the world over mate. Yer right though, bar a couple of exceptions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Stokes signs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Farrington Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Kevin Thomson has left Dens. Very good player when fit, which was very rarely. The first time I noticed him was when we beat Hibs 2-1 & JVOH scored the winner on his debut. Brown scored for Hibs, but Thomson ran the show & never wasted a pass. I remember boring the arse off everyone about how he was the better of the pair. Injuries pretty much called time on his career a few years ago, but back in his pomp, I'd still say I was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 The first time I noticed him was when we beat Hibs 2-1 & JVOH scored the winner on his debut. Brown scored for Hibs, but Thomson ran the show & never wasted a pass. I remember boring the arse off everyone about how he was the better of the pair. Injuries pretty much called time on his career a few years ago, but back in his pomp, I'd still say I was right. When the whole Thomson/Brown saga was going on I told anyone that would listen that we had got twice the player for half the money. Didn't work out like that and probably not quite accurate anyway, but I agree he was easily the better out the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Aberdeen have taken in Adam Collin on loan from Rotherham for the rest of the season. A league winning signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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