exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Neil lost Mordechai Vanunu when his paper were meant to be protecting him. Although to be fair least his paper ran with the story, he was against the Telegraph then, weird how tings change over the years. I don't really have a problem with Neil personally as such - Let's suppose the Telegraph story is true - let's supposed Neil ensured it was before being cleared for publication - so let's say the Telegraph were fed a memo, that they are simply reporting the existence of it.... now suppose the memo turned out to be a fake - they can still turn round and say they were deceived so they will claim innocence. - But doesn't it just sits a little uncomfortably, when one of the BBC's supposedly impartial and top political anchors just happens to be so close to being part of the story? Edited April 4, 2015 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Thats the way i read it from the start , i knew the torygraph had an out when it came to sueing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 #nikileaks https://twitter.com/hashtag/nikileaks?src=hash Liked this one from McWhirter... "Lost in translation: Daily Telegraph credibility. And Scottish Labour" https://twitter.com/iainmacwhirter/status/584316425269043200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Someone who pishes their strides in public and assaults a police officer, speaks of 'highest integrity'. I don't think he ever did provide an answer to the guy who asked him why he decided to plead guilty when he maintains he was fitted up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNsTeR Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Kez's? That is seemingly her dad's actual account. it is her dad's account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 The Guardian story on this now has over 5000 comments. There seems a change of tone from the indyref days, when it was a polarised yes v no (and sometimes Scotland v England) scrum. This time there's a bit more looking askance at Ed, and people apparently switching off from Labour, or saying 'oh wait, what's happening to democracy?'... The article started life as Sturgeon revelation, then Sturgeon denial, then Miliband accusation, then Sturgeon demands inquiry, and now Inquiry announced. The web title is ed-miliband-nicola-sturgeon-allegations-damning-labour-snp-david-cameron! http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/04/ed-miliband-nicola-sturgeon-allegations-damning-labour-snp-david-cameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I don't really have a problem with Neil personally as such - Let's suppose the Telegraph story is true - let's supposed Neil ensured it was before being cleared for publication - so let's say the Telegraph were fed a memo, that they are simply reporting the existence of it.... now suppose the memo turned out to be a fake - they can still turn round and say they were deceived so they will claim innocence. - But doesn't it just sits a little uncomfortably, when one of the BBC's supposedly impartial and top political anchors just happens to be so close to being part of the story? Yeah i agree, can't wear all these hats in isolation, they leak together, forgive the pun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) With hindsight I feel this was a trap. Not for the SNP, but for people like Hothersall, Dugdale and Foulkes. Get them to shout about this from every available rooftop then, when they're in a frenzy, let it be known that it was fabricated. Jumping on an obvious lie looks really childish and petulant. The fact it went all the way to Milibland makes it even worse. Didn't the PM if Spain do this after a terrorist attack. He went from election favourite to defeated in the space of about three days. I am pretty sure Labour were a target. The haven't learned the lesson of the referendum Edited April 4, 2015 by Lamia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Kezia Dugdale's father Jeff, is a nationalist who voted YES in the referendum. She has already said this for the record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNsTeR Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Kezia Dugdale's father Jeff, is a nationalist who voted YES in the referendum. She has already said this for the record. aye he sure is ... i feel sorry for him that his daughter has made a noel hunt out of herself so publicly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 So to get this right dugdale and Murphy are still pushing the original lies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 So to get this right dugdale and Murphy are still pushing the original lies? As far as I can see they have gone silent..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 SLAB have also been TELT by Dr Eoin on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Poor wee Kez - sent straight to bed withoutr her night-night Hello Kitty DVD and nae supper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 SLAB have also been TELT by Dr Eoin on twitter. I love that man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I don't really have a problem with Neil personally as such - Let's suppose the Telegraph story is true - let's supposed Neil ensured it was before being cleared for publication - so let's say the Telegraph were fed a memo, that they are simply reporting the existence of it.... now suppose the memo turned out to be a fake - they can still turn round and say they were deceived so they will claim innocence. - But doesn't it just sits a little uncomfortably, when one of the BBC's supposedly impartial and top political anchors just happens to be so close to being part of the story? No. They made no attempt to contact the principals and ask for comment. They regurgitated it for public consumption with no attempt at "real" journalism. This stinks of state manipulation and co-operation from corporate media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 No. They made no attempt to contact the principals and ask for comment. They regurgitated it for public consumption with no attempt at "real" journalism. This stinks of state manipulation and co-operation from corporate media. What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 That is fascinating viewing. I think I might watch the rest of those while waiting for Armageddon. Kwality. Man it is amazing how fast we are degrading into thickness. Could you imagine trying to make that show now. Tony Benn... I miss that guy what a brain. What a decent man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 But Labour called the report "damning" and said that even if it was not true the "SNP are happy to see another Tory government". From the BBC report. So labour are saying that even if Niola Sturgeon didn't say it she still thought it. Totally bizzare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant grebner Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 The funny thing is she probably does think it. I ken I do. Get it right up them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Sunday Herald sums it up correctly with tomorrows front page.If someone could do the honours and copy and paste the picture please.https://twitter.com/newsundayherald/status/584467740058091524/photo/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Kenny Farquharson @KennyFarq 23h23 hours ago The question now, I suppose, is whether Nicola privately believes a Tory victory would be best for the SNP and the indy cause. #nickileaks 68 retweets 21 favorites Nicola SturgeonVerified account @NicolaSturgeon @KennyFarq no, I don't Retweets 522 Favorites 733 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 #nikileaks https://twitter.com/hashtag/nikileaks?src=hash Liked this one from McWhirter... "Lost in translation: Daily Telegraph credibility. And Scottish Labour" https://twitter.com/iainmacwhirter/status/584316425269043200 Roddy Macdonald @logicsrock 10 hrs10 hours ago Allo, Allo @simon_telegraph I have a copy of the Bin Laden diaries, yours for £50K as soon as they're dry. #Frenchgate #nikileaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) No. They made no attempt to contact the principals and ask for comment. They regurgitated it for public consumption with no attempt at "real" journalism. This stinks of state manipulation and co-operation from corporate media. I'm not saying it's proper journalism. I'm saying they have could well have acted in a way that would mean they couldn't be sued for it. Would Andrew Neil let them be exposed? I note the rolling news are still repeating the allegations scrolling across the screens more than 24hr after the 'revelations'. And ed miliband's 'damning revelations' spiel is still live and unspiked, not shut down, 12 hours after. Edited April 4, 2015 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.thumb.jpg.5eeaf0fbe501ba3c868c32fd77caef1f.jpg)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.