Ex-Whitfield Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I think this episode has been a carefully crafted operation to make labour (especially in Scotland) look stupid. And it has worked - magnificently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobite Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 "Sturgeon in coalition talks with martians to take over earth" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BremnerLorimerGray Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Every single Labour member and sympathiser who has tweeted about this has been made to look incredibly stupid. The mass surge to hit the delete function on their inane remblings can be heard as far away as the Palace of Versailles. SIlly, silly people, but immensely pleasing to watch their self destruction accelerate with under a month to go before GE 2015. Dugdale in particular has made a right of herself, not surprising given the fact she's a complete idiot. Small print box at the back of the Telegraph with insincere apology to the FM to be expected. Edit* M0r0n is on the swear filter? WTF? Edited April 4, 2015 by BremnerLorimerGray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 The BBC's James Cook said: "While Nicola Sturgeon may or may not have said it... there are definitely some people within the Scottish National Party for whom five years of the Tories to attack would be a better outcome than getting into bed with Labour." May as well say, whether she said something or not, we'll just make something out of this story any way. Ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Just read the alleged memo. At the end the civil servant even suggests that something may have been lost in translation. So this is a paper that regards itself as a quality paper putting as Gospel truth third hand stories, denied by the participants and which might not even have been said in the first place! But even that won't stop the Biased Broadcating Company running with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I will not deny i would rather have cameron as PM,,, ed is a joke Yeah, but you've also said you'd consider voting UKIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Staggering turn of events The BBC's flagship Today programme this morning (7am and 7.30) led with Ed Miliband's housing proposals, Tory anti-porn proposals, something about the Lib Dems, and something about parents taking their children out of schools. So... those fine political minds of Humphreys and Naughtie not (yet) put to any use scrutinising the Sturgeon story Edited April 4, 2015 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Even more alarmingly, Duncan Hothersall has admitted he f*cked up and has apologised. Wow what a sight to behold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) I think this episode has been a carefully crafted operation to make labour (especially in Scotland) look stupid. And it has worked - magnificently. As long as this memo actually exists, the Telegraph may have little to apologise for, but others have given it credence and blown it into a story http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11514933/Nicola-Sturgeon-secretly-backs-David-Cameron.html We need a new series of The Thick of It with '7-party politics' and the BBC in the thick of it Edited April 4, 2015 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 "Sturgeon in coalition talks with martians to take over earth" Don't tell farage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 "Sturgeon in coalition talks with martians to take over earth" http://bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/916-as-parliament-is-prorogued-the-snp-prepare-their-alien-invasion.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam fae kofta Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Lord Pishy Pants believes that the story must be true and the Journalist is a good guy. Graham Watson retweeted George Foulkes 10h10 hours ago George Foulkes @GeorgeFoulkes @tullythedhog @iainmartin1 Of course she would deny it. Telegraph reporter who wrote it is of highest integrity & always checks his sources Edited April 4, 2015 by tam fae kofta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Scottish Labour still tweeting about it this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Lord Pishy Pants believes that the story must be true and the Journalist is a good guy. Graham Watson retweeted George Foulkes 10h10 hours ago George Foulkes @GeorgeFoulkes @tullythedhog @iainmartin1 Of course she would deny it. Telegraph reporter who wrote it is of highest integrity & always checks his sources Someone who pishes their strides in public and assaults a police officer, speaks of 'highest integrity'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine bibber Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 they wont let us go as they see us as the last piece of evidence of empire So true.The British would be forced to look inwards at themselves and admit the real truths of the last 300 years .The very institutions that are the cornerstone of their so called democracy would be exposed and shattered .Turned on by the same propaganda machine that persuades them they are important to the world. They just couldn't handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 @gear_ratio: @WingsScotland Tory culture secretary states Sturgeon story as true on BBC1 breakfast news at 08:18. Goes unchallenged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Surely to God she can sue them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 So the story has proven to be totally untrue. Is this potentially in breach of libel laws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 So the story has proven to be totally untrue. Is this potentially in breach of libel laws? Even mentioning potential litigation will (hopefully) convince the more stupid amongst us that the story is a heap of shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 The BBC's flagship Today programme this morning (7am and 7.30) led with Ed Miliband's housing proposals, Tory anti-porn proposals, something about the Lib Dems, and something about parents taking their children out of schools. So... those fine political minds of Humphreys and Naughtie not (yet) put to any use scrutinising the Sturgeon story Jim Naughtie later covered it (about 8.25am) but made the point that it had been denied by Sturgeon, the Scottish Government, the Consul General and the French Embassy. Was quite impressed as he seemed to imply that it was total nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Been on State Broadcaster Breakfast also. Spent 5 minutes taking about it, then at the end "oh, by the way, Nicola Sturgeon denies it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 It was headline news on GMS there, but their story was about the denials by Nicola Sturgeon rather than the Telegraph headline itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Jim Naughtie later covered it (about 8.25am) but made the point that it had been denied by Sturgeon, the Scottish Government, the Consul General and the French Embassy. Was quite impressed as he seemed to imply that it was total nonsense. Interesting. But then... the 'total nonsense' angle (and who's behind it?) has yet to be pursued. Maybe 'embarrassing twitter frenzy over unsubstantiated tory press smear' is not news any more. But then... the R4 9 o'clock bulletin did cover the story (after first dutifully trotting out the 3 'big parties' campaigning agendas of the day), where newsreader repeated the words about her not seeing Ed Miliband as PM material (sounded like a direct quote) Edit: my earlier link pointing to the memo should have been http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11515276/Revealed-Full-text-of-Nicola-Sturgeon-memo.html Edited April 4, 2015 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine bibber Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 This is just the beginning . The same began to happen to Alex Salmond several years ago.it is absolutely incredible that they could find nothing on this man.He must be the cleanest politician on the planet.So they made a decision to drip feed a complex web of lies.Just the persona the British state wants to portray.They have the most varied and controlled propaganda machine and it will now be directed to include Nicola as well. There is a lot of evidence to suggest people only remember the headlines.I guarantee one thing the headlines for the denial and apology wont be half as impressive or staged as the headlines that the false accusers promote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres the pies Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 l would expect just like the referendum there will be many a made up story against the snp really is desperate stuff from the unionist media they can't help them selves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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