Toepoke Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 There is a lot of evidence to suggest people only remember the headlines.I guarantee one thing the headlines for the denial and apology wont be half as impressive or staged as the headlines that the false accusers promote. Fortunately only raging Tories read the Telegraph... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Fortunately only raging Tories read the Telegraph... But a lot more see it when the BBC & ITV run it in their national news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine bibber Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Remember too when better together wheeled on an adviser or "qualified" spokesperson to rubbish the evidence of the YES campaign it was quoted as FACT.When the YES campaign did the same ,usually as a counter claim and with more reasoned evidence they were quoted as having an OPINION. A very small and subtle statement on it's own .But i listed hundreds of occasions over a 2 year period on mainstream television where this happened on several political and news based programmes .All run or influenced by Westminster.It get right into your psyche as a negative effect without the recipient being aware.This was just one of many techniques that were used. In the end when they thought they were losing better together and their media lackeys just simply resorted to repeated lies even live on air .The highlight being the famous "Salmond refused to answer the question" by the BBC's "most respected political reporter".But if you were to poll people 7 months after the event how many would still agree that he reused to answer the question when he actually gave the usual brilliant answer.i would not be confident of a positive result even in Scotland. This is what Nicola is up against .The real powers behind the throne are determined to remove this new "Queen of Scots" head . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Fortunately only raging Tories read the Telegraph... Is that quisling voice of a buffon Alan Cochrane still at the torygraph & what is their circulation in Scotland? Suppose there's an increase in red tory circles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 "It appears to confirm growing speculation in Scotland that the SNP would privately favour another Conservative-led Westminster government - which it could campaign against in a bid to stoke up anti-English sentiment and make an "out" vote more likely in another referendum" Paragraph in the original article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 "It appears to confirm growing speculation in Scotland that the SNP would privately favour another Conservative-led Westminster government - which it could campaign against in a bid to stoke up anti-English sentiment and make an "out" vote more likely in another referendum" Paragraph in the original article. They must've been doing their research on the TAMB Heard the Radio2 news at 10 there, plenty of politics chat but not a mention of the story, or the SNP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 "Oh, Nicola, you're the Queen of Scots". Who in their right mind would say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khana Lagur Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if it emerges that big dope Carmichael's grubby fingerprints are all over this. Apparently he was at the meeting (French claim on TV today) and let's not forget he won't have forgotten the battering Nicola gave him in the indy TV debate. So I wouldn't put it past Carmichael to try and muddy the waters by possibly whispering in an ear and suggesting we can maybe say this, that or anything we want and blame it on 'translation'. We are dealing with desperate people here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Seen at top of memo , not to be showed outside of SG circle ,surely the civil sevant involved should be burned at the stake or put on a zero hours contracr for mike ashley inc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Carmichael is the fly fukk who would do anything to smear the snp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if it emerges that big dope Carmichael's grubby fingerprints are all over this. Apparently he was at the meeting (French claim on TV today) and let's not forget he won't have forgotten the battering Nicola gave him in the indy TV debate. So I wouldn't put it past Carmichael to try and muddy the waters by possibly whispering in an ear and suggesting we can maybe say this, that or anything we want and blame it on 'translation'. We are dealing with desperate people here. Ah ha! It's all coming together now. If Islay's fat answer to Einstein was there, it's definitely his doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 DEFO ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtscotland Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 This will be a product of Westminster's dirty tricks department. The metropolitan media are willing accomplices as they are part of the establishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Ed Miliband says the story is "revealing" on the Radio Scotland news there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Whitfield Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Ed Miliband says the story is "revealing" on the Radio Scotland news there... That interview was some hours ago, the fact that BBC Scotland is still running with it in light of other info, tells us all we need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Get this French Diplomat on TV with a categorical denial - that'll shaft them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Was it the crafty mastermind Carmichael, or the affable bumbling MI5? Craig Murray: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/uk-intelligence-services-attack-snp/ He also says: I am 100% certain that MI5 have people online posing as cybernats. BTW I see comments enabled on the BBC story http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32177315 Edited April 4, 2015 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 To give Wings his credit, it's stuff like this he's in his element with*. Except when he called the "journalist" a kiddie fiddler of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Fraser Nelson is it too... http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/04/nicola-sturgeon-admits-the-snp-prefer-cameron-to-miliband/ If it's not the 'evil' Tories, bliar's spin doctors, or 'fib dems', could the whole thing be a massive fishing exercise by those crafty nats all along? Feed a red herring to the media, watch the feeding frenzy of the way the lies are perpetuated, then reveal it's a hoax and see who was caught out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 To give Wings his credit, it's stuff like this he's in his element with*. Except when he called the "journalist" a kiddie fiddler of course. Except when he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Carmichael is the fly fukk who would do anything to smear the snp. Foreign office denying its their memo, finger now being pointed fairly and squarely at Carmichaels Scottish Office. Sturgeon has asked for a Civil Service enquiry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Foreign office denying its their memo, finger now being pointed fairly and squarely at Carmichaels Scottish Office. Sturgeon has asked for a Civil Service enquiry. It's so bloody ham-fisted and stupid, it has to be him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 where are all the truth-loving liberals now? je suis nicola? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockodile Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I like it. Je suis nicola she is doing a grand job,totally loving her as First Minister; even after her illustrious predecessor. Go Nicola! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 How i would love to get him in squirming mode on the telly , surely this would pump him out of his safe seat and a job ? Heres hoping . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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