daviebee Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Take the match into context eh. Match stats say it all about how much Croatia dominated the match in every department. Wales equalised with the last kick of the game in what was a classic smash and grab raid. Hardly, a case of Wales matching Croatia in every department (far from it). I only saw the first half, but from that, Wales were to Croatia what Cyprus were to us. I was amazed when I seen they'd got a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 The under 21s just pumped us 3-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Take the match into context eh. Match stats say it all about how much Croatia dominated the match in every department. Wales equalised with the last kick of the game in what was a classic smash and grab raid. Hardly, a case of Wales matching Croatia in every department (far from it). I believe Craig Brown's Scotland teams were roughly the same tactically and they qualified for two finals ...... Would Scotland have got a similar result away in Croatia yesterday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I believe Craig Brown's Scotland teams were roughly the same tactically and they qualified for two finals ...... Would Scotland have got a similar result away in Croatia yesterday ? With the huge riding of luck then yes they would have. And we have, ourselves, got away draws to noted opponents too with us having far more of the game. I am thinking of Ukraine, Netherlands and Serbia. Edited March 26, 2023 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: I believe Craig Brown's Scotland teams were roughly the same tactically and they qualified for two finals ...... Would Scotland have got a similar result away in Croatia yesterday ? It's improving. O.k they're not in Croatia's class but winning in Austria 18 months back was probably the best competitive away win for a decade and pretty much sealed second in the World cup group. Then got the point away to Ukraine to seal top spot in the nations league group which could yet prove crucial with insurance of play off spot. For what's required in this group certainly a win in Cyprus and then draws in Tiblisi and Oslo. Would have a very good chance of 2nd just losing the one away game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Take the match into context eh. Match stats say it all about how much Croatia dominated the match in every department. Wales equalised with the last kick of the game in what was a classic smash and grab raid. Hardly, a case of Wales matching Croatia in every department (far from it). Exactly this. I've said it before but I honestly think Wales are the luckiest of all the home nations! And please don't anyone spin that 'you make your own luck' bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Take the match into context eh. Match stats say it all about how much Croatia dominated the match in every department. Wales equalised with the last kick of the game in what was a classic smash and grab raid. Hardly, a case of Wales matching Croatia in every department (far from it). Exactly. Odd individual results happen all the time; take Kazakhstan's 3-2 win over Denmark today (and, stats wise, that was a much more even game than Croatia-Wales). Right now, I think Wales are in a battle for Turkey for second in that group; that point they took from Croatia could be vital to them qualifying. I'd still favour Turkey to come second ahead of Wales though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Clyde1998 said: Exactly. Odd individual results happen all the time; take Kazakhstan's 3-2 win over Denmark today (and, stats wise, that was a much more even game than Croatia-Wales). Right now, I think Wales are in a battle for Turkey for second in that group; that point they took from Croatia could be vital to them qualifying. I'd still favour Turkey to come second ahead of Wales though. Indeed. Also look through recent campaigns when Wales have been struggling against lesser teams and have had Bale to call from the bench to rescue them? No lifeguard there for them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 14 hours ago, todd said: Exactly this. I've said it before but I honestly think Wales are the luckiest of all the home nations! And please don't anyone spin that 'you make your own luck' bs That’s some lucky stretch 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said: That’s some lucky stretch 😂 I stand corrected, everything they've achieved is through their sheer brilliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, todd said: I stand corrected, everything they've achieved is through their sheer brilliance Better than saying a team has been lucky for about 6 years 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Think we can officially close this thread now we have our answer! 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) On 3/27/2023 at 9:30 AM, ParisInAKilt said: Better than saying a team has been lucky for about 6 years 😂 When did I say that? I said I thought they were the luckiest british team, at no point did I say ALL they've achieved was down to luck, but hey, you just make up what ever you want for your wales love-in Edited March 28, 2023 by todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Absolutely fucking not ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 8:38 AM, todd said: When did I say that? I said I thought they were the luckiest british team, at no point did I say ALL they've achieved was down to luck, but hey, you just make up what ever you want for your wales love-in That’s the timeframe they’ve had their relative success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Struggling tonight v Armenia by all accounts. Could be coming to the end of their cycle after approx 10 years of relative success. Both Irish struggling to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Hope this serves as a warning judging by the Welsh and Irish tonight, players need to be at it the morn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) Also, hopefully puts an end to the question posed in this original post! 🤣 Could you even imagine the backlash if we lost at home to Armenia? Edited June 16, 2023 by todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 All 3 losing, could be a nervy one tomorrow 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, JECK said: All 3 losing, could be a nervy one tomorrow 😬 I‘m not sure how these 3 results could affect our game tomorrow but I’m pretty sure it will be a nervy one regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjd1972 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 The Welsh defence was abysmal. If you score 2 at home to the likes of Armenia then you shouldn’t be losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Jeezo, I didn't see that result coming. I know Wales don't have bawbag Bale anymore but they've still a good team. Perhaps Armenia are a bit better than they showed against us (I see they're now being coached by Ukraine's former manager). Northern Ireland were extremely unlucky not to get a point in Copenhagen, which would have been an excellent result for them. Felt sorry for the wee 16-year-old making his international debut who thought he'd levelled it in injury time, only for VAR to decide someone was a bawhair offside (I'm still not sure who it was supposed to be!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, scotlad said: Jeezo, I didn't see that result coming. I know Wales don't have bawbag Bale anymore but they've still a good team. Perhaps Armenia are a bit better than they showed against us (I see they're now being coached by Ukraine's former manager). Northern Ireland were extremely unlucky not to get a point in Copenhagen, which would have been an excellent result for them. Felt sorry for the wee 16-year-old making his international debut who thought he'd levelled it in injury time, only for VAR to decide someone was a bawhair offside (I'm still not sure who it was supposed to be!). Or perhaps we are better than some of our own fans give us credit for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Don't think they are on the same planet, TBH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loanhead-tartan Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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