vanderark14 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Italy, Spain or Rangers. The latter would guarantee him a game for a couple of seasons. Rangers would be a backwards move for him. I really hope he doesn't do thay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Rangers would be a backwards move for him. I really hope he doesn't do thay Perhaps, but he needs to play every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Perhaps, but he needs to play every week. He's talented enough to do that in Italy or Spain in my opinion. I'd rather see him go to a top end english championship side instead of going to rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: He's talented enough to do that in Italy or Spain in my opinion. I'd rather see him go to a top end english championship side instead of going to rangers Fair enough, but not without risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Get him out to Bologna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4Footsoldier Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 12 hours ago, vanderark14 said: He's talented enough to do that in Italy or Spain in my opinion. I'd rather see him go to a top end english championship side instead of going to rangers I'm not really sure about that. Playing in a team that will see plenty of the ball like Rangers would be good for him, and he would get exposure to European competition. His current trajectory in England has a severe risk of him falling into the EFL wilderness and playing in League 1 in 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots_Wha_Hae Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, N4Footsoldier said: I'm not really sure about that. Playing in a team that will see plenty of the ball like Rangers would be good for him, and he would get exposure to European competition. His current trajectory in England has a severe risk of him falling into the EFL wilderness and playing in League 1 in 5 years He's 21, John McGinn didn't move to the EPL until he was what, 24/25? Andy Robertson must have been around 24 when he made his Liverpool breakthrough. Adams was around 23 when he made his EPL debut. He has plenty time to become a really top player. I agree he needs games but we shouldn't forget we are discussing a guy with 40 career EPL appearances at 21. He's got very little chance of dropping to League 1 now or in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I’d like to see him at Hearts, could def do a job for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 46 minutes ago, Scots_Wha_Hae said: He's 21, John McGinn didn't move to the EPL until he was what, 24/25? Andy Robertson must have been around 24 when he made his Liverpool breakthrough. Adams was around 23 when he made his EPL debut. He has plenty time to become a really top player. I agree he needs games but we shouldn't forget we are discussing a guy with 40 career EPL appearances at 21. He's got very little chance of dropping to League 1 now or in the near future. Agreed Going back to Rangers would be two steps backwards IMO. He would look like Messi playing in our tin pot league, he is better than the SPFL IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4Footsoldier Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Agree a return 3 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Agreed Going back to Rangers would be two steps backwards IMO. He would look like Messi playing in our tin pot league, he is better than the SPFL IMO At his current stage he will most likely have to move back now to go forwards. Both a return to Scotland or the EFL would be a step back for sure. I think there is a general misconception about the standard of Scottish Premier vs Eng Champ. Having been to quite a lot of Championship games I can say that the standard of the average game isn't that great. It looks good because most games command 20,000 supporters or thereabouts and there's a bit more money so it will attract the a few better players. At least with a Rangers return he would have a chance to grown in a win at all costs atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 hours ago, N4Footsoldier said: Agree a return At his current stage he will most likely have to move back now to go forwards. Both a return to Scotland or the EFL would be a step back for sure. I think there is a general misconception about the standard of Scottish Premier vs Eng Champ. Having been to quite a lot of Championship games I can say that the standard of the average game isn't that great. It looks good because most games command 20,000 supporters or thereabouts and there's a bit more money so it will attract the a few better players. At least with a Rangers return he would have a chance to grown in a win at all costs atmosphere. do you think he would be guaranteed a start at Rangers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Malcolm said: do you think he would be guaranteed a start at Rangers? Fuck off 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this can't be a serious question🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 52 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Fuck off 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this can't be a serious question🤣🤣🤣🤣 I know, right? A Scottish player guaranteed a start at Rangers 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Fuck off 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this can't be a serious question🤣🤣🤣🤣 all I’m saying is his forms out the window. His confidence will be at rock bottom. If rangers have aspirations to win the league you would want a proven quantity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Malcolm said: all I’m saying is his forms out the window. His confidence will be at rock bottom. If rangers have aspirations to win the league you would want a proven quantity. Give it up min. The fishing attempts are boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4Footsoldier Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Not sure I've seen a coherent argument yet on the thought of Gilmour going back to Rangers that isn't just a general gripe about Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) Get yer arse out to Italy Billy! Forza Scozia! 🇮🇹🏴🇮🇹🏴🇮🇹 Edited March 24, 2023 by Judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csinclair Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 18 hours ago, N4Footsoldier said: Agree a return At his current stage he will most likely have to move back now to go forwards. Both a return to Scotland or the EFL would be a step back for sure. I think there is a general misconception about the standard of Scottish Premier vs Eng Champ. Having been to quite a lot of Championship games I can say that the standard of the average game isn't that great. It looks good because most games command 20,000 supporters or thereabouts and there's a bit more money so it will attract the a few better players. At least with a Rangers return he would have a chance to grown in a win at all costs atmosphere. The English Championship is a bizzare division. I’ve been watching quite a few of the games on sky since the new year and it varies in quality drastically game to game even sometimes from the same team. One week a team will be playing fluid flowing football the next they’re hoofing it and all the goals are a scrappy mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4Footsoldier Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, csinclair said: The English Championship is a bizzare division. I’ve been watching quite a few of the games on sky since the new year and it varies in quality drastically game to game even sometimes from the same team. One week a team will be playing fluid flowing football the next they’re hoofing it and all the goals are a scrappy mess. It is a long slog of a season in fairness, maybe that is the determining factor that it's hard to look at the quality of the league on face value of just a few games, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Think he'll pop up where Lampard manages next. It's easy to forget he was starting 4-5 games in a row for Chelsea but then lockdown happened and season stopped and he got a bad injury around that time which had him out for many months. When he returned Lampard had been sacked. Brighton looked a logical move to me but trouble there is he signed and then Potter left a week later and again seems he's had injury issues. He's certainly lost momentum in last two years. Norwich loan didn't work out at all but says something that a progressive club like Brighton were still happy to take him permanently as they can see the long term. Of course if they make europa he can stay there and get a decent number of starts as they don't have endless depth in CM and one of their main guys will probably leave as nearly happened with Caicedo in January. He's probably in same position as Ethan Ampadu is. He's currently at Spezia in the lower reaches of Serie A but still actually a Chelsea player. Regardless of club form he still starts every single time for Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Gilmour should be the heart of our midfield by now but instead he's a fair bit down the pecking order. I'm not sure if he will feature much in the up coming games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, N4Footsoldier said: Not sure I've seen a coherent argument yet on the thought of Gilmour going back to Rangers that isn't just a general gripe about Rangers Not one single person has griped about rangers. Coming back to the SPFL is beneath him in my opinion, he is far too good for this league..............thats what I have said. Edited March 24, 2023 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 5 hours ago, N4Footsoldier said: Not sure I've seen a coherent argument yet on the thought of Gilmour going back to Rangers that isn't just a general gripe about Rangers Why Rangers tho, why not Celtic for that matter? You fundamentally do not get tested when playing for the old firm. Both teams just buy players that are way too good for the league and are made to look like world superstars. Look how Celtic just decimate teams with rarely a glove laid on them. Rangers aren’t that far behind them. They are essentially playing the equivalent of lower championship/English league 1&2 level every week which is not Gilmours level at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 1:13 PM, vanderark14 said: Not one single person has griped about rangers. Coming back to the SPFL is beneath him in my opinion, he is far too good for this league..............thats what I have said. He’s not really proving that at the moment though is he? I don’t think he should come back up here either but he’s not exactly setting the EPL alight like we all hoped he would a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookhouseBoys Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Italy or Spain would be a brilliant fit for him. Maybe Hickey and Ferguson will have a word with him during this camp and get him thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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