Caledonian Craig Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I smell a distinct pong of bullshit in those rumours. Clarke singled out Patterson for praise post-match (report is on the BBC Sport site) so that alone tells me he was in line to play tomorrow. If there is any shred of truth in the rumour then I'd be gobsmacked. It really is surprising how seemingly despised O'Donnell is by Scotland fans. He has assists in key matches for us to his name and in the Euros V England from 8-yards-out he did what Christie, Robertson, and Gilmour failed to do and get a shot in on target that was cleared off the line. I am comfortable with O'Donnell playing tomorrow. I doubt Fraser would have started nor McLean. And we still have enough numbers on the bench for there to be 10 on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shug macdiarmid Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, marinello said: Hearing from a source very close to the squad that it is only Mc Lean who is out injured . Patterson seemingly ' threw the toys out the pram' when told he wouldn't start tomorrow night. Fraser deselected as he refused to warm up at some point during the Moldova game. Bit historical but apparently Ralston was called up before Denmark game ( after others couldn't play) but he had to withdraw because he contracted COVID. Heard from a source close to the squad emotional healing therapist that mcTominay is not injured but was left out following a traumatic re-birthing session.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 42 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: The reason I don't believe this is because there's no logical reason for not playing Patterson tomorrow. As far as any sane person is concerned, Patterson sealed the RB spot against Moldova. He was one of the few positives. In saying that, if there's any truth in what you are saying, Patterson and Clarke both need to look at themselves because again it's the fans who get fucked over And why would Clarke be picking his team more a day and a half before kick-off? Plus, it's not as if Patterson - or Fraser, come to that - are exactly strangers to starting games on the bench! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, scotlad said: And why would Clarke be picking his team more a day and a half before kick-off? Plus, it's not as if Patterson - or Fraser, come to that - are exactly strangers to starting games on the bench! Precisely. So we are lead to believe Patterson (yet to hold down a regular first team spot at a club side) went berserk on being told (two days before team announced) that he was going to be on the bench for the national side. Sorry.....just no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, marinello said: SC has a long history of knowing what to say to the press. This includes keeping matters in house and certainly not throwing players under the bus . Will be interesting to see if Patterson and Fraser feature for their clubs this weekend and moreso for the double header next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Well that was that rumour rightfully debunked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: God sake, how did he do that? He's hardly been playing since Euros! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: I smell a distinct pong of bullshit in those rumours. Clarke singled out Patterson for praise post-match (report is on the BBC Sport site) so that alone tells me he was in line to play tomorrow. If there is any shred of truth in the rumour then I'd be gobsmacked. It really is surprising how seemingly despised O'Donnell is by Scotland fans. He has assists in key matches for us to his name and in the Euros V England from 8-yards-out he did what Christie, Robertson, and Gilmour failed to do and get a shot in on target that was cleared off the line. I am comfortable with O'Donnell playing tomorrow. I doubt Fraser would have started nor McLean. And we still have enough numbers on the bench for there to be 10 on the bench. 10 on the bench but 7 of them being goalies and defenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: I It really is surprising how seemingly despised O'Donnell is by Scotland fans. i think its to do with what O Donells brother does for a living. That is part of the age old Scottish issue, especially from the harder core of Rangers fans, who i believe are behind all this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, stocky said: i think its to do with what O Donells brother does for a living. That is part of the age old Scottish issue, especially from the harder core of Rangers fans, who i believe are behind all this... There's definitely been a lot of seethe from some Rangers fans since the Euros because SOD was keeping the one player they had in the squad out of the team. They also don't like Clarke either from his time at Kilmarnock so are happy to use this as a stick to beat him with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, ProudScot said: 10 on the bench but 7 of them being goalies and defenders Ferguson, Nisbet, Turnbull and Adams as attacking options I think on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, stocky said: i think its to do with what O Donells brother does for a living. That is part of the age old Scottish issue, especially from the harder core of Rangers fans, who i believe are behind all this... What does his brother do for a living? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Toepoke said: There's definitely been a lot of seethe from some Rangers fans since the Euros because SOD was keeping the one player they had in the squad out of the team. They also don't like Clarke either from his time at Kilmarnock so are happy to use this as a stick to beat him with. I think it’s blatantly obvious how vastly superior Patterson is tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Patterson has got to be the future for the RB position but I hope O’Donnell has a good game tomorrow to shut a few folk up. He’s had a number of good contributions for us so it was strange how quickly he became a scapegoat overnight. I guess that was partly due to the build up of pressure (Rangers fans & media) to get Patterson in and then a poor performance vs Czechs (although he wasn’t the only one) where fans had a lot of frustration after the exciting build up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, ProudScot said: What does his brother do for a living? He's a Catholic priest, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 There’s also the other aspect that O’Donnell really isn’t that good, although until recently he was probably the best we had available in his position. That doesn’t make him good enough to play international football though and let’s not forget he has had some really poor performances for Scotland. To his credit though he’s always made himself available and always does the best he can, I’d rather have someone with his attitude than someone with more talent and ability but who couldn’t be arsed. I’m not going to criticise him for not being good enough, nor Clarke for picking him when there were no better options. Plenty do though, I suspect that’s more the reason for people criticising him than which club he’s played for or what his brother does for a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinello Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, romanticscot said: Well that was that rumour rightfully debunked. Will have words with my source 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Patterson is just a kid so it's quite believable that he would throw a tantrum after playing well on Saturday Plus he knows he is better than O'Donnell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 39 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Patterson is just a kid so it's quite believable that he would throw a tantrum after playing well on Saturday Plus he knows he is better than O'Donnell. But he didn't though. Pure unsubstantiated bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Tartan blood said: He's a Catholic priest, apparently. No apparently about it, he is. Not that it should make one iota of difference to how folk see him as a player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Totally Scottish that we know his brother is a catholic priest... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 There’s a defensive narrative that people are against O’Donnell because of the club he plays for (whatever that means) or that errr.. his brother is a priest, which is news to me, however, the majority of us who don’t like him playing is purely down to the fact that he’s not that good and the difference between him playing & a wing back who’s fast and comfortable on the ball, like Patterson, is quite startling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: No apparently about it, he is. Not that it should make one iota of difference to how folk see him as a player Don't his vestments get in the way when he slide tackles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 his semmit? nah, never troubled a well timed slider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 7 hours ago, ProudScot said: There’s a defensive narrative that people are against O’Donnell because of the club he plays for (whatever that means) or that errr.. his brother is a priest, which is news to me, however, the majority of us who don’t like him playing is purely down to the fact that he’s not that good and the difference between him playing & a wing back who’s fast and comfortable on the ball, like Patterson, is quite startling. Patterson is fast and comfortable on the ball going forward, that's true. The issue is his unproven reliability as a defender. It speaks volumes that his club manager does not trust him against even middling sides ahead of Tavernier. Until he gets regular games at first team level to improve his development as a defender, the Clarke will prefer O'Donnell for fixtures like Austria away. And right now, it's the correct decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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