RDFH64 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: No idea why the Aberdeen defender runs into him. That’s less defence than we’ve had all season 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots_Wha_Hae Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Scot Gemmill doesn't think Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Doak starting tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Doak starting tonight. That’s December now and would say it’s been disappointing since the summer. Would imagine there will be a loan either in Jan or next summer and unless he makes a huge impact elsewhere his days at Liverpool will be numbered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, JECK said: That’s December now and would say it’s been disappointing since the summer. Would imagine there will be a loan either in Jan or next summer and unless he makes a huge impact elsewhere his days at Liverpool will be numbered. He only turned 18 a month ago. Give the lad a chance. Not many boys just turned 18 get anywhere near the Liverpool first team. Saying that I think we were all expecting a bit more from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Doak still very much in the "potential" category albeit imo there is bags of potential. He is yet to have a stand out moment or match that really announces him as a viable 1st team player. Time very much on his side however this Euros will come 2 soon for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsparky Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Doak needs to get more involved in the game. He just stands out on his wing and waits for the ball to come to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Doak is in a difficukt position. A lot of the time he is dtopped in to an experimental side with youngsters alongside with all of them desperate to make an impression making them strive too much in my opinion. He has not done as much as I would like though and maybe would be better getting a loan spell with a continuous run of games rather than sporadic outings. Currently, the Euros are too soon for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Brilliant passing and possession stats for Gilmour tonight, I get the feeling we need him in our midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Doak is in a difficukt position. A lot of the time he is dtopped in to an experimental side with youngsters alongside with all of them desperate to make an impression making them strive too much in my opinion. He has not done as much as I would like though and maybe would be better getting a loan spell with a continuous run of games rather than sporadic outings. Currently, the Euros are too soon for him. To be honest not that interested in english club football but anytime Doak starts he seems to be substituted.I know he is still young but starting to feel he might be another of those special players who might not be as good as we hoped he might be.Quite willing to be corrected by anybody who follows english football but would like to hear a bit more positivity on such a so called great talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Brilliant passing and possession stats for Gilmour tonight, I get the feeling we need him in our midfield. Massive praise on twitter, saying he controlled the game, also Chelsea fans crying that they sold him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Zero Scottish players on the pitch for even 1 minute for Rangers yet again tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Didn’t see the game tonight but normally watch a lot of Brighton. Most of their fans giving him man of the match in a game they consider to be one of the biggest of their history (first season in Europe). Supposedly 100% pass completion and dominating the midfield. Sounds amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 On current form, our best 2 midfielders in the deeper roles could be Gilmour & Christie. Would like to see this tried in one of the friendlies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Watched the Brighton game and that was the best I have seen Gilmour play for a while. When not on the ball, his tracking players in the middle and breaking up play was spot on. When he had the ball everything he seemed to do was the correct decision. If you get the chance have a look at the nutmeg he did in the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, stitch said: Watched the Brighton game and that was the best I have seen Gilmour play for a while. When not on the ball, his tracking players in the middle and breaking up play was spot on. When he had the ball everything he seemed to do was the correct decision. If you get the chance have a look at the nutmeg he did in the first half. Just saw the nutmeg on their forum, brilliant , as are the comments about him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 13 hours ago, JECK said: That’s December now and would say it’s been disappointing since the summer. Would imagine there will be a loan either in Jan or next summer and unless he makes a huge impact elsewhere his days at Liverpool will be numbered. I would like to see him get a loan move to lower epl team or a championship team. Give him a chance to play every week and develop his game, especially his end product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Re; Doak, the big advantage at the moment is that defenders seem terrified of him so he could tie up a defence. I thought he looked pretty good againt Hungary but maybe it is too soon for him. Billy Gilmour had put in a few brilliant performances when he was put in the squad. Ryan Fraser has been looking good. I'm not really convinced he's done much wrong for Scotland though I think Clarke knows better than me about his character and commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: Re; Doak, the big advantage at the moment is that defenders seem terrified of him so he could tie up a defence. I thought he looked pretty good againt Hungary but maybe it is too soon for him. Billy Gilmour had put in a few brilliant performances when he was put in the squad. Ryan Fraser has been looking good. I'm not really convinced he's done much wrong for Scotland though I think Clarke knows better than me about his character and commitment. His commitment is terrible, a guy his age should have double the amount of caps he has. Always pulled out of squads or wouldn't be available despite playing for his club regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintydave Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 If Christie was to be tried in one of the deeper roles, that could open up a position for Fraser further forward, a 3 of mcginn, mctominay, fraser behind the solo striker could have great potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, saintydave said: If Christie was to be tried in one of the deeper roles, that could open up a position for Fraser further forward, a 3 of mcginn, mctominay, fraser behind the solo striker could have great potential. Will be interesting to see how this R.Christie role/position pans out and what it means for Scotland going forward?!? But gives the S.Clarke options just like K.Maclean who is very versatile in several positions. I think R.Fraser has been good for Scotland but part of me thinks S.Clarke knows what he has done and let him down. Hence why his ‘Clarkes’ interest in H.Barnes back in August/ September. Would H.Barnes be an improvement on R.Fraser - I’d say so, by a good stretch If everyone fit and available next March for the Netherlands/ N.Ireland double header then I don’t think we see R.Fraser ( unless he’s setting the heather on fire and in the form of his life ) Somehow, I think we’re more likely to see H.Barnes ahead of R.Fraser imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, saintydave said: If Christie was to be tried in one of the deeper roles, that could open up a position for Fraser further forward, a 3 of mcginn, mctominay, fraser behind the solo striker could have great potential. Would have to play a 4 at the back for that to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: His commitment is terrible, a guy his age should have double the amount of caps he has. Always pulled out of squads or wouldn't be available despite playing for his club regularly. There was a whole thing about him pulling out injured and then training with Newcastle but players can train while not being ready to start a match. He did well in the last nations league games, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: There was a whole thing about him pulling out injured and then training with Newcastle but players can train while not being ready to start a match. He did well in the last nations league games, too. Hes always been terrible for pulling out or not being available. Clarke had to make an example out of him because he took the piss one to many times. Good player and I would like him back in the squad but his commitment in the past was poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 5 hours ago, broraboy said: Will be interesting to see how this R.Christie role/position pans out and what it means for Scotland going forward?!? But gives the S.Clarke options just like K.Maclean who is very versatile in several positions. I think R.Fraser has been good for Scotland but part of me thinks S.Clarke knows what he has done and let him down. Hence why his ‘Clarkes’ interest in H.Barnes back in August/ September. Would H.Barnes be an improvement on R.Fraser - I’d say so, by a good stretch If everyone fit and available next March for the Netherlands/ N.Ireland double header then I don’t think we see R.Fraser ( unless he’s setting the heather on fire and in the form of his life ) Somehow, I think we’re more likely to see H.Barnes ahead of R.Fraser imo Ryan Fraser at his best or Harvey Barnes would be a very close call, a couple of seasons ago I'd have gone with Fraser due to his pace, touch, delivery & workrate but injuries have taken there toll I reckon so he isn't the player he was. He is doing quite well at Southampton albeit often from the bench but I'm not convinced yet that he is back anywhere near the level of player he was . Think if Christie's conversion continues to go well & Barnes commits he will be on that plane to Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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