Third Lanark Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 6 hours ago, Pool Q said: Interesting. If Forrest starts, and you have a point he could do so on the right, I hope he runs the Maltese side ragged, rattles in a first-half hat-trick, gets a couple more in the second-half, and then goes off to a standing ovation from the Scotland fans with 10 minutes left. But that's probably just me. Provided he is replaced with Burke for that last ten then I would be just as happy as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Na I think everyone would be happy with an easy 0-5 win haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Cat amongst the pigeons?? http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/english-fa-move-for-rb-leipzig-s-scottish-superkid-oliver-burke-4144944 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Paulo2576 said: Cat amongst the pigeons?? http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/english-fa-move-for-rb-leipzig-s-scottish-superkid-oliver-burke-4144944 Nothing story considering he will most likely get his first competitive cap tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Nothing story considering he will most likely get his first competitive cap tomorrow he better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 hour ago, er yir macaroon said: he better To not get him in the pitch tomorrow, even if it's as an injury time sub, would be downright stupidity. Whether he develops into a top player or not, to not get him tied down and run the risk of the English poaching him just wouldn't make any sense. Still behind Strachan, a lot depends on how we start this campaign, but if he doesn't get Burke on at some point think that will be it for me. Or if he starts Watt. Or even Chris Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 4 hours ago, Paulo2576 said: Cat amongst the pigeons?? http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/english-fa-move-for-rb-leipzig-s-scottish-superkid-oliver-burke-4144944 Non story. He's still with the Scotland squad, will probably play against Malta. And crucially, none of the English journalists with sources within the FA are reporting this. Burke is Scottish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 To not get him in the pitch tomorrow, even if it's as an injury time sub, would be downright stupidity. Whether he develops into a top player or not, to not get him tied down and run the risk of the English poaching him just wouldn't make any sense. Still behind Strachan, a lot depends on how we start this campaign, but if he doesn't get Burke on at some point think that will be it for me. Or if he starts Watt. Or even Chris Martin. Agree with the first point. Not to tie down a young hugely potential player who will be playing in the Bundesliga would be criminal. We want to win the game obviously but also need to think about future development and potential. I hope Strachan has this at the back of his mind regardless of the fact that it is a non-story. As for your second point, Strachan's ship has already sailed for me. I don't have an issue with Watt starting as if Strachan's intention was to start with someone pacey and his first choice drops out, then if you don't have someone pacey in the squad then it is sensible to bring someone in if you wish to maintain that formation. there are questions as to why a second similar type striker wasn't in the initial squad to start with but it seems Strachan is thinking over his formation which is no bad thing as it seems that he may no longer consider the 4-2-3-1 to be the absolute consistent approach. However this should have been considered quite some time ago. its not as if we have a flood of emerging talent and he needs to see how they perform in training before deciding what formation to settle on. that is what friendlies are for and we played some pretty useless games ahead of the euros. So whilst it is promising we will possibly not be shoe horning players into Strachan's preferred formation, I think we will end up playing that formation with Fletcher up front on his own. Combined with that is the inclusion of Martin and the omission of McCormack and Rhodes. the fact that journalists give him such an easy ride on these types of issues infuriates me. he can no longer be judged by his record so he needs to be grilled on this and not let off with condescending or contradictory responses. Our (mainstream) media fails us politically and they fail us on the football front also. all tied in to this belief that we are performing as we are based on the resources available (nice political segway into this but couldn't ignore the comparison). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 02/09/2016 at 10:10 AM, Parklife said: He's done alright in his career so far... I think you overvalue pace, much like many folk do. Agreed about the pace issue especially against a team like Malta who are likely to defend in numbers and defend deep. Dalglish wasn't quick except over five yards and in his thinking/anticipation. Tomorrow we should set out to have majority of possession and be patient and be composed. Me I'd go for Marshall: Paterson, Hanley, Berra, Robertson: Ritchie, Fletcher, Bannen, Snodgrass; Burke, Fletcher in a 442. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 He was immense tonight, poor Shaun Maloney might struggle to get back into the team after Olly's performance. I though media were over reacting by saying that he is Scotland's, Gareth Bale but I can see why they said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Shaun said: He was immense tonight, poor Shaun Maloney might struggle to get back into the team after Olly's performance. I though media were over reacting by saying that he is Scotland's, Gareth Bale but I can see why they said it. Immense may be an exaggeration but looked very promising. He gives us something a little bit different on the flanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 I agree... Looks decent. Promising attributes and happy to go at teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Think immense is stretching it.Looked very good in flashes and will be good for us no doubt and good to see the likes of him getting his chance although if it had been any bar Malta from our group pretty sure he wouldn,t have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borojock Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 certainly has promise and very excited about the potential he has but i would still say there is a lot of work to be done. His control certainly needs some improving but great start to his career with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome22Devil Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Looked hungry and willing to try things but maybe a bit too overeager at times which led to some silly mistakes...but for what is essentially still a kid making a big step up, a very promising display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Looks a prospect. Definitely offers us something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 get him played on the right FFS, as i said earlier he has no left foot as shown when he knocked the ball out with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 He's far from the finished article and is still very raw which is only to be expected. I remember seeing an 18 year old John Carew playing for Valerenga against Chelsea in the Cup Winners Cup in 98/99 and while he's a very different type of player watching Burke last night reminded me of him, you could see the physical attributes and the potential but there were lots of rough edges that had to be knocked off. It will be interesting to see how well he develops at Leipzig but the Bundesliga has a good technical level so those raw edges will need to be knocked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, LewisEDI said: get him played on the right FFS, as i said earlier he has no left foot as shown when he knocked the ball out with it did you see the goal he scored last week for his club?? Down the left wing and cut along the bye line before knocking it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, dipped flake said: did you see the goal he scored last week for his club?? Down the left wing and cut along the bye line before knocking it in. Was that not scored with his left foot as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 On 03/09/2016 at 1:14 PM, The Black Bra said: if he doesn't get Burke on at some point think that will be it for me. Or if he starts Watt. Or even Chris Martin. So you're done, aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 He was a bit over eager in the game, but a couple of years in Germany and we'll have some player on our hands. Maloney correct in saying he'll come to the fore against good teams that play a higher line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Was that not scored with his left foot as well? I think he scored with his right (only seen it once) but it showed that he is fine on the left wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Think nerves were getting the better of him at times but I do think he has the makings of a Scotland great. Reminds me of Ritchie's first game where there were flashes of what he could do but seemed to let nerves get the better of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 9 hours ago, andyD said: So you're done, aye? Ok, ok. No-one wanted Chris Martin to start! Strachan's a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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