flynnyboy Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Naisy played most of last season for Everton. He's not had that chance yet this season but is easily one of our best and !ost important players. It's shit he misses out at Everton for guys like miralles who is a bawbag and no the best player I've ever seen. Miralles has hardly played this season as well and is a far, far better player than Naismith, he may not have the same work ethos that Steven has but he is immensely more talented. The worrying thing is Martinez, who is clearly a Naismith fan, would rather play cleverly out of position and Kone, who has been good this season but generally shite, rather than him. I genuinely think his time at Everton is coming to an end. Maybes not a bad thing for us and him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Norwich have unsuccessfully bid for a few strikers so far so I wouldn't be averse to Naismith maybe going somewhere like that. Not sure what his fee would potentially be though - circa £10m maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Norwich have unsuccessfully bid for a few strikers so far so I wouldn't be averse to Naismith maybe going somewhere like that. Not sure what his fee would potentially be though - circa £10m maybe? hard to say with the english market, i would think bidding would start at half of that if not lower, mind you he's twice the player fletcher is. Edited August 26, 2015 by LewisEDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goozay Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Norwich have unsuccessfully bid for a few strikers so far so I wouldn't be averse to Naismith maybe going somewhere like that. Not sure what his fee would potentially be though - circa £10m maybe? He's got 3 years left on his contract so I'd says it's more than that, which makes a tranfer look unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 So do we start Fletcher too who's hardly played? And Hutton? Before Tuesday I'd have said put Griffiths ahead of Fletcher. I'm not so sure now. Strachab might opt for Martin. Whittaker ahead of Hutton seems like a no-brainer just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The amount of chances that fall to Naismith that he misses for Scotland scares the shizzle out of me sometimes. Can't help but feel griffiths is due (ah but malmo game folk will say. he barely had any chances and was isolated in that game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 I only watched the second half and extra time but I thought Naismith looked ok last night. He did look a bit rusty and only game time will help with that. He got a goal and put himself in some brilliant positions when in attack but 85% of the time Lukaku or whoever seemed to take an extra touch rather than playing him in and his runs were wasted. His positioning and runs are superb but my main criticism last night (An all too often in a Scotland shirt) he game the ball away leading to an opposition attack at least 5 times that I can think of. He was only a matter of inches from getting another goal to his credit. He needs game time but with the EPL teams skunking cash like it's going out of fashion on the best Europe and the World football has to offer I can only see his opportunities being limited. Possibly a team like Crystal Palace, West Brom, Norwich, Bournemouth etc. might be his best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norsefox Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The amount of chances that fall to Naismith that he misses for Scotland scares the shizzle out of me sometimes. Can't help but feel griffiths is due (ah but malmo game folk will say. he barely had any chances and was isolated in that game) We haven't had a striker that scores goals in a long time. I'd never want to rely on Naismith to win us games, he just doesn't score goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Lack of game time for some key players is very worrying.WGS has got a lot to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Lack of game time for some key players is very worrying.WGS has got a lot to do. Definitely this. It hasn't been a great start to the season. Hopefully wgs philosophy of hard training through next week will see us over the line for this game. It's tantalisingly close as were genuinely in the mix going in tithe last 4 games.I'd take another 1-0 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North East Loon Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Indeed when you consider the lack of game time by Naismith, Hutton etc it's worrying, we going to need fit players with game time behind them. No passengers for this one, must win WGS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The amount of chances that fall to Naismith that he misses for Scotland scares the shizzle out of me sometimes. Can't help but feel griffiths is due (ah but malmo game folk will say. he barely had any chances and was isolated in that game) The Malmo game certainly highlighted that he's an absolute roaster and a liability at international level... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabtheBruce Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I agree with Toepoke, Griffiths isn't strong enough to play up front on his own. Yes, he's a good finisher and has decent pace, but he just can't hold the ball up well and thinking back to the home game against Belgium, it was like he was a wee boy playing men. If Fletcher is fit he will start up front. If not, it will be Naismith who has played very well for us in that role in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesney Hawkes TA Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Almost as worrying as how bad Naismith was last night is that there are people posting on here that they thought he was quite good or ok. You do wonder if they watch the same sport as you. They clearly don't understand it. There is zero chance Naismith will start at Spurs. But I think he'll play against Georgia. He's good in the air and wins cheap free-kicks, both of importance to Scotland. He's like a poor man's Don Hutchison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If Fletcher doesn't make it, it would open up some interesting permutations actually(as long as Martin wasn't a direct replacement, which would be disastrous.) I'd like to see Naismith as the lone striker which then would open up a berth for Maloney or maybe even Armstrong behind the striker. I'd be looking to wind down Hutton's international career now really, great servant but so many club managers haven't rated him. Whittaker has started the season really well, I'd put him in his place. Longer term though I think it'd be hard for Strachan to ignore Calum Paterson if he continues to shine in a successful Hearts side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Miralles has hardly played this season as well and is a far, far better player than Naismith, he may not have the same work ethos that Steven has but he is immensely more talented. The worrying thing is Martinez, who is clearly a Naismith fan, would rather play cleverly out of position and Kone, who has been good this season but generally shite, rather than him. I genuinely think his time at Everton is coming to an end. Maybes not a bad thing for us and him. I really dont rate Miralles, hes very selfish and lazy for the majority. He has more footballing talent but personally i think Naisy is a farbetter player to have in your team. Kone is awful and will get dropped eventually, i fully expect Naisy to win his place back in the starting line up. Cleverly isnt amazing either and much more suited in the middle as you say. Its where does he go, i dont want him dropping down a league and if he moves he needs to be playing every week. I cant see him leaving Everton anytime soon tbh. And he will start next week regardless, one of our best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Before Tuesday I'd have said put Griffiths ahead of Fletcher. I'm not so sure now. Strachab might opt for Martin. Whittaker ahead of Hutton seems like a no-brainer just now. Martin? Hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesney Hawkes TA Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I really dont rate Miralles, hes very selfish and lazy for the majority. He has more footballing talent but personally i think Naisy is a farbetter player to have in your team. Kone is awful and will get dropped eventually, i fully expect Naisy to win his place back in the starting line up. Cleverly isnt amazing either and much more suited in the middle as you say. Its where does he go, i dont want him dropping down a league and if he moves he needs to be playing every week. I cant see him leaving Everton anytime soon tbh. And he will start next week regardless, one of our best players. Written whilst wearing a pair of pants on your head with pencils in your nostrils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Kirk, on 26 Aug 2015 - 7:20 PM, said: He looked out of position and flapped a bit nowhere near the ball for the first. Nah, he was where he should be. He was given zero help by his defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 we all know what the team will be and the club mentality and settled team has been working the fear is though that hutton, Naismith steven fletcher will be rusty at best no idea how Maloney has been playing hopefully they click again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 We used to play Faddy every game when he couldn't get near the Everton side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I agree. Completely. He is way off it just now for whatever reason. He is a scapegoat for the Everton fans, but it's only just resurfaced after a period of grace the last year or so. There is a reason for that. He has been utterly shocking so far this season. Granted only a few games in. And I have watched every minute of everton's games this season including 3 preseason games that he was involved in. One thing I'm certain about though is that he'll give his absolute best for us if selected. I thought Naisy did well enough when he came on for the last half hour against City last Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIFA10 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 we all know what the team will be and the club mentality and settled team has been working the fear is though that hutton, Naismith steven fletcher will be rusty at best no idea how Maloney has been playing hopefully they click again Naismith played 30 mins on Sunday against the champions, then 120 minutes 3 days later. If he gets any sort of game time against Spurs on Saturday night, he shouldn't be rusty. Hutton hadn't played much, but also got 120 minutes on Tuesday in the cup. This weekend will be telling for him. Fletcher may be out of contention this weekend and maybe even for Scotland. He went off with suspected concussion on Tuesday and I have yet to see any reports on how he is, or the plan for his return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Since the death of hitlers favourite team in 2012, Scotland have improved and there are much less call offs. Plus Wallace is garbage. I don't like them either but that's out of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 We used to play Faddy every game when he couldn't get near the Everton side. Faddy was a special case Although that doesn't mean Naismith shouldn't play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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