Fairbairn Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 So they're now saying the goal was disallowed due to offside. I might be wrong but has a referee ever been sent to the monitor for an offside before? Surely VAR just draw the lines and tell him if it's offside or not? If he's went to the monitor it's because they've told him to review a foul and it now seems they're backtracking and trying to shoehorn in the offside excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbernauldJag Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, romanticscot said: I think the horse has left the stable for us to finish 1st. Spain's goal difference is far too large for us to overcome IMO. If Norway beat Spain, then it's still do-able but I don't want to pressure of needing to beat Georgia away. I want qualification a certainty, that's all that matter for me I want us qualified as well but a draw still gives us a chance to win the group. Although I think that's gone now sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borojock Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, Fairbairn said: So they're now saying the goal was disallowed due to offside. I might be wrong but has a referee ever been sent to the monitor for an offside before? Surely VAR just draw the lines and tell him if it's offside or not? If he's went to the monitor it's because they've told him to review a foul and it now seems they're backtracking and trying to shoehorn in the offside excuse. I was just about to post the same thing - if its offside i thought they told the ref and the ref didnt go over Whatever happened ref was a disgrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Think though troops. Never thought I would gutted and feel robbed playing Spain away in a crucial Euro qualifier.. Just shows how far we have come !!!! 🏴👊🏴👊🏴 Excellent point, I was listening to Paul Lambert this morning and he said it would be difficult to get anything today but he was sure we would make it hard for them. The scoreline, expected if I am honest, the stats don't tell the story of the match but the manner it came about hurts right now. We defended well. Porteous is an asset all things considered. I sure hope Robbo isn't crocked long term. The second goal was a bit of Scotland of old so I don't want to see much more of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: So they're now saying the goal was disallowed due to offside. I might be wrong but has a referee ever been sent to the monitor for an offside before? Surely VAR just draw the lines and tell him if it's offside or not? If he's went to the monitor it's because they've told him to review a foul and it now seems they're backtracking and trying to shoehorn in the offside excuse. https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/video-assistant-referee-var-protocol/#procedures Quote For factual decisions e.g. position of an offence or player (offside), point of contact (handball/foul), location (inside or outside the penalty area), ball out of play etc. a ‘VAR-only review’ is usually appropriate but an ‘on-field review’ (OFR) can be used for a factual decision if it will help manage the players/match or ‘sell’ the decision (e.g. a crucial match-deciding decision late in the game) The referee shouldn't need to 'sell' an offside decision mind. Additionally, the referee never gave an indirect free-kick for an offside [2:00 on video below]. Edited October 12, 2023 by Clyde1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiScotsman Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Disappointing but I’m sure we will qualify Sunday. Our disallowed goal is actually mental. We would have drawn the game I’m sure if that stood. Michael Stewart can fuck off on comms too. Total bellend What did he say that made you irate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 The referee was a cunt , thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said: https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/video-assistant-referee-var-protocol/#procedures The referee shouldn't need to 'sell' an offside decision mind. Was just about to post similar. The ref won't necessarily go to the monitor to determine if it's offside but will to determine if a player is interfering or not. So in that case fair enough however....if that is the case it must be one of the quickest VAR offside calls since it was introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Wtf? Sucking off Spain like fuck at FT when the wrongly disallowed goal is the reason we’ve got nothing from the game, not the fact they played us off the park (which they did - but goals change games) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, Fairbairn said: Was just about to post similar. The ref won't necessarily go to the monitor to determine if it's offside but will to determine if a player is interfering or not. So in that case fair enough however....if that is the case it must be one of the quickest VAR offside calls since it was introduced. Aye and my edit to that post showed the ref never gave an indirect free-kick for an offside; he gave a direct free-kick. They're just trying to find an excuse to rule that goal out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiScotsman Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: So they're now saying the goal was disallowed due to offside. I might be wrong but has a referee ever been sent to the monitor for an offside before? Surely VAR just draw the lines and tell him if it's offside or not? If he's went to the monitor it's because they've told him to review a foul and it now seems they're backtracking and trying to shoehorn in the offside excuse. You are correct, the ref only goes over to the monitor for a possible red card or foul that led to the goal that he hasn’t seen or if he’s got a call completely wrong - like ruling out a legitimate goal which should have stood (Dykes against Israel). They don’t go over to the monitor for offside goals, VAR do the lines and communicate it back to the ref whether it’s offside or not. We’ve seen what happened with the Luis Diaz goal for Liverpool against Tottenham that got ruled out when it shouldn’t have been disallowed. We heard the audio on rhe communication that was made during that call between the VAR operator and VAR official. I’d be interested to hear the communication for our disallowed goal tonight as I have a feeling they are using the offside call as a backtrack now which you mentioned. Edited October 12, 2023 by DesiScotsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Orraloon said: We all know that football is totally corrupt. They don’t even try to hide it McGinn struggling to not quite say that right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Sucking off Spain like fuck at FT when the wrongly disallowed goal is the reason we’ve got nothing from the game, not the fact they played us off the park (which they did - but goals change games) What a load of shite to post Stewart was just as furious as us at that decision, he's still going on about it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 minute ago, StirlingEgg said: McGinn struggling to not quite say that right now 👍 They need to channel that 'wee bit angry' against Georgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Get the Etcha Sketch line out - what a load of absolute bollocks https://x.com/M4rtyman/status/1712575999655784874?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiScotsman Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Away from the disallowed goal, which is the most infuriating thing tonight as it’s not been made clear and obvious - I hope Andy Robertson is doing okay. That shoulder injury looked worrying and I hope it isn’t anything serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, DesiScotsman said: Away from the disallowed goal, which is the most infuriating thing tonight as it’s not been made clear and obvious - I hope Andy Robertson is doing okay. That shoulder injury looked worrying and I hope it isn’t anything serious. Going by the way McGinn and Clarke responded to questions about him it doesn't sound overly positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitelaw Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said: Get the Etcha Sketch line out - what a load of absolute bollocks https://x.com/M4rtyman/status/1712575999655784874?s=20 Fuck me I actually laughed out loud when that link opened! What’s the fucking point? Seriously, can you imagine the shit storm if, for example, that was England that had that goal chopped off? They’d have every media outlet in the country rightly crying corruption! I’m fucking fuming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said: Get the Etcha Sketch line out - what a load of absolute bollocks https://x.com/M4rtyman/status/1712575999655784874?s=20 TBF you can only see a bit of Hendry there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Robbo getting wiped out https://v.redd.it/o9hrpbnlzttb1 Is that a foul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Toepoke said: TBF you can only see a bit of Hendry there. If he is actually offside fair play to the lad as his erection must be sizeable 😆 The ref can't be overruled by VAR for a foul then VAR overruled for an offside surely- it's beyond farcical as nae chance it happens the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookhouseBoys Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, exile said: 👍 They need to channel that 'wee bit angry' against Georgia Yep. Hammer Georgia and the rest is noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, ThistleWhistle said: 😆 beyond farcical as nae chance it happens the other way. I'm not disagreeing with you there anyway... https://x.com/ViaplaySportsUK/status/1712564534454480939?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: Robbo getting wiped out https://v.redd.it/o9hrpbnlzttb1 Is that a foul? It’s a straight red and a penalty. This wound me up more than the offside shithousery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 It’s never even a foul……in the modern game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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