mcguffin Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Hercules Rockefeller said: That's the spirit. Get to fuck a 19 year old who was nominated for young player of the year in Serie A. Good point. There were a lot of poor performances from more established Scotland players last night. It seems harsh to pick out Aaron Hickey. But I guess a scapegoat is necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 He's not being made into a scapegoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 He was rank rotten, there’s no harm in saying so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 He should be dropped for the next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I haven't read all the thread, so others may have made this point. For me the problem was Hickey playing on right. A natural right footer O 'Donnell or Ralston should have played there. I know he has played there for his club, but only a handful of times. He may be two- footed, but clearly much more comfortable on left, as left foot is strongest foot. It was very frustrating watching Ukraine able to press Hickey back, as he was reluctant or unable to play ball up the wing on his weaker foot. We very much missed Patterson, but O'Donnell would have been a better option there than Hickey. Hopefully Clarke won't make that mistake again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Malcolm said: He should be dropped for the next game. No he can't. The other option is the fan's devil incarnate Stephen O'Donnell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: No he can't. The other option is the fan's devil incarnate Stephen O'Donnell. Isnt Ralston in the squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just now, romanticscot said: Isnt Ralston in the squad? Of course. And if he plays then gets ostracised........? Fans are so fickle. If you were to ask fans if they wanted Aaron Hickey to play the vast majority of fans would have said yes. Where are all those now? Hindsight is wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Of course. And if he plays then gets ostracised........? Fans are so fickle. If you were to ask fans if they wanted Aaron Hickey to play the vast majority of fans would have said yes. Where are all those now? Hindsight is wonderful. He won't get ostracised if he plays well. Hickey was everyone's choice including mine but I was shocked at how poor he was. He had a poos debut but that doesn't mean he can't or won't get better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Hickey was everyone's choice including mine but I was shocked at how poor he was. He had a poos debut but that doesn't mean he can't or won't get better Precisely. It happens. Players play crap from time to time but people calling for him to be axed need to take a reality check. I mean last night only Craig Gordon came out of that match with any credit as the rest were sub-standard but do not see calls for the rest to be axed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Precisely. It happens. Players play crap from time to time but people calling for him to be axed need to take a reality check. I mean last night only Craig Gordon came out of that match with any credit as the rest were sub-standard but do not see calls for the rest to be axed. 90 mins under his belt. He'll learn from the experience (as will some of the other players who were poor but Steve Clarke persisted with). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 We only looked good in the last 30 minutes because the Ukrainians started to panic and lost their shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Hickey didn't have the best 1st half, but then again who did? He came on to a game in the 2nd though. Didn't miss any glaring sitters from 2 or 3 yards out either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 hours ago, vanderark14 said: He's not being made into a scapegoat Yes sorry, 'scapegoat' was a bit strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 16 hours ago, Tartan Chris said: Struggled tonight, needs more time to settle in at international level. Would be easy to bring back S O'D for nations league games but Hickey needs run of games to get into groove as he obviously has talent for what he's producing at Bologna so might aswell stick with him against weaker opposition before Patterson returns in September. I think Patterson is still in the squad, just not fit enough for Ukraine. He should start against Armenia to get his fitness up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Hickey is going to be a good player for us. Had a poor fist half last night but he will get better with time and more games under his belt. I'd start him at left back against Armenia. He wasn't any worse than Robbo last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I think Hickey and Robertson were hung out to dry by Clarke. By playing Dykes and Adams so narrow there was no-one in front of the full backs to play up to and overlap. There were several occasions when Robertson was forced to try and take on at least 2 Ukrainians up the wing. Hickey was getting caught with 2 players all the time. Clarke was completely out thought by the Ukrainian manager. I would like to see Hickey get another chance next week, he is definitely going to be a big player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 10 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Of course. And if he plays then gets ostracised........? Fans are so fickle. If you were to ask fans if they wanted Aaron Hickey to play the vast majority of fans would have said yes. Where are all those now? Hindsight is wonderful. Exactly, the criticism is way over the top. At least he is willing to use his 'wrong' foot. Look at Robertson, on at least 2 occasions last night he should've used his right foot but flat out refused to. Still can't get my head around the fact that a professional footballer, not just Robertson by any means, can become established without being able to use both feet equally. I taught myself and then my son to do this in my own back garden ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 10 hours ago, vanderark14 said: He won't get ostracised if he plays well. Hickey was everyone's choice including mine but I was shocked at how poor he was. He had a poos debut but that doesn't mean he can't or won't get better A poos debut, teehee! 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, runningtings said: I think Hickey and Robertson were hung out to dry by Clarke. By playing Dykes and Adams so narrow there was no-one in front of the full backs to play up to and overlap. There were several occasions when Robertson was forced to try and take on at least 2 Ukrainians up the wing. Hickey was getting caught with 2 players all the time. Clarke was completely out thought by the Ukrainian manager. I would like to see Hickey get another chance next week, he is definitely going to be a big player for us. Thats it exactly. Neither Hickey or Robertson are the type of player to run at defenders and take them on (like Tierney and Patterson). Their strength is pass and move. The way we setup last night was totally wrong for them as there was nobody to pass to. As soon as we went 1 up top both wing backs played better. When Hickey develops physically he is going to be some player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 McTominay was absolutely shocking yesterday, prob the worst performance I've seen from a Scotland player, how he stayed on the pitch for the 90 is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunkyboy and the fluffer Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Nobody got pass marks last night. So anyone singling out Hickey is a cunt. Just a bad night move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 14 hours ago, mcguffin said: Good point. There were a lot of poor performances from more established Scotland players last night. It seems harsh to pick out Aaron Hickey. But I guess a scapegoat is necessary? Mctominay is the scapegoat. He gets blamed for any goal thats scored regardless of wether hes at fault or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 9 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Mctominay is the scapegoat. He gets blamed for any goal thats scored regardless of wether hes at fault or not. .... I'm a bit tired and my brain processed that as "...regardles of whether he's on the pitch or not." 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 11 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Mctominay is the scapegoat. He gets blamed for any goal thats scored regardless of wether hes at fault or not. Pretty much the same at Man. He's been rubbish all season. He won't start many EPL games next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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