todd Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: I like to see the likes of Aberdeen, Hearts etc do well in Europe so tend to watch them but if Doak is in from the start i'll be watching Liverpool. I do too, but still, it's not great that Aberdeen will be starting their game today with only one more Scot than Liverpool are starting with 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, todd said: I do too, but still, it's not great that Aberdeen will be starting their game today with only one more Scot than Liverpool are starting with 😁 Correction, 2 more. I assumed Robertson was starting 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Other than bbc sport live text, how’s Ben Doak playing ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, broraboy said: Other than bbc sport live text, how’s Ben Doak playing ?? Just been subbed off. Won a couple of free-kicks and had one good run into the box but otherwise didn't really have much impact. That said, the team generally wasn't playing all that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, scotlad said: Just been subbed off. Won a couple of free-kicks and had one good run into the box but otherwise didn't really have much impact. That said, the team generally wasn't playing all that well. I thought he put a couple of good balls across face of goal but no one there to tap them in , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, 86glebestreet said: I thought he put a couple of good balls across face of goal but no one there to tap them in , Aye, he looks dangerous as fk when he gets the ball, they just didn't feed him enough! he's good enough for the national team, easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 By all means call him up to include him in the squad etc but he’s not ready yet from what I’ve seen of him so far. And that’s perfectly fine, we’re a good team and he’s only 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Could we actually see Rangers playing with a youth who knows, but see Beale talking in a press conference saying 16 year old Bailey Rice is ready for the madhouse, a few appearances so far, long term deal signed, lots of clubs wanted him, looked at the squad last night 9 Scots on the bench a few youngsters but apparently some rue means Rice cannot be in squad yet in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, syecosse said: Could we actually see Rangers playing with a youth who knows, but see Beale talking in a press conference saying 16 year old Bailey Rice is ready for the madhouse, a few appearances so far, long term deal signed, lots of clubs wanted him, looked at the squad last night 9 Scots on the bench a few youngsters but apparently some rue means Rice cannot be in squad yet in Europe. The reason there are so many young Scots on the bench in Europe is because Rangers have very few home grown and club trained players therefore it significantly reduces the number of normal players that they can list in their European squad. All of the young Scots you see dont need to be included in the squad so are effectively free and are very much filling out the bench. Id wager that none get any game time in these games. Rice looks like a great talent but also remember that Leon King was talked about as the next majorly talented player to come through the academy and he has been shunted because he had a few iffy performances in a makeshift defence, one of which was against Liverpool. Instead of trusting him and providing a platform for him to fulfil his potential they resigned a 35 year old Balagoun who was never 1st team standard even when he was younger. Given their track record Rice will hang about Ibrox for another few years, getting very limited game time, waiting for his chance, having to wait even more even when he has played well and eventually be deemed not Rangers standard. Mainly because he wasnt given the gametime to develop. See Patterson, Lowry, Devine and King for the template. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 18 hours ago, scotlad said: Just been subbed off. Won a couple of free-kicks and had one good run into the box but otherwise didn't really have much impact. That said, the team generally wasn't playing all that well. Klopp was saying that the team never gave him enough of the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 86glebestreet said: Klopp was saying that the team never gave him enough of the ball From what I gather, Klopp is a very hands on manager, and is heavily involved in training. He's certainly not going to write Doak off after one performance that isn't electric. Especially after all his other jaw dropping performances. Plus, he must be frightening in training if he is getting starts for giants like Liverpool at 17. Also, Doak appears to be quite self-aware, based on his interviews and comments. He seems to be miles ahead of virtually every 17 year old we've ever witnessed in terms of mental strength, as well as talent. Edited September 22, 2023 by Tartan blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 4 hours ago, syecosse said: Could we actually see Rangers playing with a youth who knows, but see Beale talking in a press conference saying 16 year old Bailey Rice is ready for the madhouse, a few appearances so far, long term deal signed, lots of clubs wanted him, looked at the squad last night 9 Scots on the bench a few youngsters but apparently some rue means Rice cannot be in squad yet in Europe. Great to hear , let's hope that high praise leads to a few at the very least appearances from your bench this side of Christmas. If it does & he looks the part you never know who could be starting games regularly at the the age of 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Was great to see Doak start at his age. He has bags of talent but obviously he has things to work on. It will take a while for his teamates to trust him with the ball and also to recognise what he is going to do and make the runs that will turn some of his good work into assists. For example, twice last night he squared up the full back, went on the outside and drilled the ball across the face of the goal. If Diaz starts running as soon as he see's Doak squaring up the defender then he has 2 tap ins and Doaks performance is being hailed. If we had a decent U21 coach id like to get him gametime in the U21s but as things stand id call him up to the main squad but probably just for training experience. On a side note, why the youth sides dont play the same system as the full squad I have no idea. We basically have 2 formations. These should be the template for all the youth sides. All coaching should be taken from the A sides playbook in terms of phases of play etc. Id be all for getting rid of managers at these levels and just employing really good coaches like Ian Cathro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Didn't realise Oliver Burke had gone to Birmingham, jeez the amount of moves that boy's had in a relatively short time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 10 hours ago, syecosse said: Could we actually see Rangers playing with a youth who knows, but see Beale talking in a press conference saying 16 year old Bailey Rice is ready for the madhouse, a few appearances so far, long term deal signed, lots of clubs wanted him, looked at the squad last night 9 Scots on the bench a few youngsters but apparently some rue means Rice cannot be in squad yet in Europe. 9 Scots on the bench & 0 Scots starting. 1 Scot coming off the bench. Shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, ProudScot said: 9 Scots on the bench & 0 Scots starting. 1 Scot coming off the bench. Shite This. Deplorable cunts with zero identity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, todd said: This. Deplorable cunts with zero identity Celtic 2 Scottish starting, 4 on the bench so I take it their a deplorable club without identity also🤔 The reason the Scots are on the bench at both clubs is pretty simple really , they either aren't ready, aren't in form ( Ryan Jack maybe) or the most logical reason they simple aren't good enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, theabsentee said: Celtic 2 Scottish starting, 4 on the bench so I take it their a deplorable club without identity also🤔 The reason the Scots are on the bench at both clubs is pretty simple really , they either aren't ready, aren't in form ( Ryan Jack maybe) or the most logical reason they simple aren't good enough! I'll sum up the Old Firm. In the last few years they had the chance to sign:- John McGinn Lewis Ferguson Kevin Nisbet Lawrence Shankland Scott McKenna Ryan Fraser And made no move to sign them. Why? They prefer horse shit bargain basement foreign tripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, theabsentee said: Celtic 2 Scottish starting, 4 on the bench so I take it their a deplorable club without identity also🤔 The reason the Scots are on the bench at both clubs is pretty simple really , they either aren't ready, aren't in form ( Ryan Jack maybe) or the most logical reason they simple aren't good enough! True but there are issues with recruitment. We may be turning a corner but until recently it's been difficult to see how our foreign imports have been better than Scottish players who would have been cheaper but were deemed not good enough eg Hickey, Porteous, Doig, Ferguson, Nisbet, Dykes etc. There does seem to be a feeling amongst some of our fans that they can't be good enough simply because they're Scottish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: I'll sum up the Old Firm. In the last few years they had the chance to sign:- John McGinn Lewis Ferguson Kevin Nisbet Lawrence Shankland Scott McKenna Ryan Fraser And made no move to sign them. Why? They prefer horse shit bargain basement foreign tripe. 100% vote up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: I'll sum up the Old Firm. In the last few years they had the chance to sign:- John McGinn Lewis Ferguson Kevin Nisbet Lawrence Shankland Scott McKenna Ryan Fraser And made no move to sign them. Why? They prefer horse shit bargain basement foreign tripe. Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 14 hours ago, todd said: Didn't realise Oliver Burke had gone to Birmingham, jeez the amount of moves that boy's had in a relatively short time! Admins - please ensure that the name 'Oliver Burke' is never again mentioned on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 13 hours ago, todd said: This. Deplorable cunts with zero identity Same with EPL teams. Seen the Wolves line-up for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 15 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: I'll sum up the Old Firm. In the last few years they had the chance to sign:- John McGinn Lewis Ferguson Kevin Nisbet Lawrence Shankland Scott McKenna Ryan Fraser And made no move to sign them. Why? They prefer horse shit bargain basement foreign tripe. Front two of Shankland and Nisbet would win the champions league? How many SPFL players have the Of signed since Fraser left, I am assuming you don't mean the recent availability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Two assists for Plymouth's Hardie, so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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