ThistleWhistle Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, aaid said: Or alternatively Russia messing around with the supply to try to get Germany, etc., to put pressure on Ukraine to settle a war that Russia are losing and doing it in a way that also gets NATO countries suspicious of each other. The simplest question is who benefits most, chances are that’s the culprit. The US seem to be seeing plenty reward in how the dollar is going so they seem to be winning out of all this for me. The other thing I don't get is why would Russia blow it up when they control the tap - they could launch it's utilisation whenever they wanted then mess about from the taps from there. It makes far more sense for someone that doesn't have access to the taps to blow it up surely especially when they've threatened exactly that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said: The US seem to be seeing plenty reward in how the dollar is going so they seem to be winning out of all this for me. The other thing I don't get is why would Russia blow it up when they control the tap - they could launch it's utilisation whenever they wanted then mess about from the taps from there. It makes far more sense for someone that doesn't have access to the taps to blow it up surely especially when they've threatened exactly that? See my second point about sewing mistrust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 12 hours ago, aaid said: The SNP could be the official opposition. Labour might not be too bothered about us pissing off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I am just hoping that Scottish Labour voters who back independence take note of Starmer's comments this week stating there will be no coalitions and that we are all British and stands by the union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I wouldn't put it past America but two other pipelines have ben blown up when Russia is engaging in economic warfare with another state. Georgia blamed Russia for the 2006 explosion on a pipeline in January 2006 and Turkmenistan blamed them in 2009 for another explosion Both accused Russia of energy blackmail. Russia denied the claims and said was probably terrorists. All he said she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, phart said: I wouldn't put it past America but two other pipelines have ben blown up when Russia is engaging in economic warfare with another state. Georgia blamed Russia for the 2006 explosion on a pipeline in January 2006 and Turkmenistan blamed them in 2009 for another explosion Both accused Russia of energy blackmail. Russia denied the claims and said was probably terrorists. All he said she said. I wouldn’t put anything past the USA but outside of some wild quadruple-cross style conspiracy, I can’t see where there would be an advantage for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Ukraine have asked to be fast tracked into NATO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Latest poll via PeoplePolling las Labour on 50%. Subsample has the SNP at 56%, the Greens at 6%. Would almost certainly mean a complete wipeout of the Tories up here. Yet the gruesome twosome still aren't listening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Ukraine have asked to be fast tracked into NATO lets get them in asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Malcolm said: lets get them in asap Step back and think about that after the last 24 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I think some of these polls need taking with a large dose of salt, that seem to be modelled on assuming a consistent swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Scottish Westminster voting intention (sub-sample) SNP - 56% Lab - 25% Green - 6% LD - 5% Con - 3% Other - 4% [Seat projection] SNP - 57 (+9) Lab - 2 (+1) LD - 0 (-4) Con - 0 (-6) THat would see not only the Tories but Lib Dems wiped out, and curiously the Greens getting more votes than the LD_Tories out together, which sees highly improbably for a WM election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Kwasi Kwarteng attended private champagne reception *hours* after delivering mini-budget where hedge fund managers (who would gain from crash in pound) urged him to double down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Nearly 130 die in stampede at football match in Indonesia, fucking grim https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63105945 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 10 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Kwasi Kwarteng attended private champagne reception *hours* after delivering mini-budget where hedge fund managers (who would gain from crash in pound) urged him to double down No fucks given. This country is in a state. Rory Stewart for PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 ‘No fucks given’! The country is in a state largely due to the direction promoted and driven through by your beloved Tory establishment. Governments and leaders should always be called to account, but they are getting away with corruption and self interest….. confirmed by your no fucks given comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, ger intae them said: ‘No fucks given’! The country is in a state largely due to the direction promoted and driven through by your beloved Tory establishment. Governments and leaders should always be called to account, but they are getting away with corruption and self interest….. confirmed by your no fucks given comment. a. No fucks given… I was referring to Kwasi as giving no fucks. b. I wouldn’t necessarily say I’m a Tory, I have voted for them once in last ten years at local government level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 9/30/2022 at 4:17 PM, King Of Paisley said: Latest poll via PeoplePolling las Labour on 50%. Subsample has the SNP at 56%, the Greens at 6%. Would almost certainly mean a complete wipeout of the Tories up here. Yet the gruesome twosome still aren't listening My guess is three seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, Malcolm said: a. No fucks given… I was referring to Kwasi as giving no fucks. b. I wouldn’t necessarily say I’m a Tory, I have voted for them once in last ten years at local government level. Apologies Malcolm, read your post totally arse about face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, ger intae them said: Apologies Malcolm, read your post totally arse about face. no problem, I wasn’t very clear and given some of my right wing views it’s a reasonable assumption to make! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) Horrendous this is still happening in this day and age. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63105945 Edited October 2, 2022 by Och Aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 5 hours ago, dan cake said: Nearly 130 die in stampede at football match in Indonesia, fucking grim https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63105945 11 minutes ago, Och Aye said: Horrendous this is still happening in this day and age. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63105945 I was discussing recently that Indonesia would've been a better choice of AFC World Cup host than Qatar. Might need to rethink that one 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: My guess is three seats You could be right. Duguid, Lamont and Mundell could well hang on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 JRM getting a hard time outside the Tory conference in Birmingham. Imagine that was up here. We'd have James Cook or Glen Campbell, phones out, getting in people's faces, the SNP issuing apologies and bedwetters crying about it "putting people off independence!" 😭 But the people in that clip are English - they're allowed to get angry and shout things outside party conferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, scotlad said: JRM getting a hard time outside the Tory conference in Birmingham. Imagine that was up here. We'd have James Cook or Glen Campbell, phones out, getting in people's faces, the SNP issuing apologies and bedwetters crying about it "putting people off independence!" 😭 But the people in that clip are English - they're allowed to get angry and shout things outside party conferences. No surprise there. It is just further evidence of the total union bias in the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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