Third Lanark Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I've said it before - Scotland seem to have a higher proportion of call-offs than other countries, regardless of who is the manager. How many have England had for example so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Losing Griffiths and Fraser is disappointing. There are two players which I believe we should be setting up to get the best out of them. I think I'd go with something like this now, assuming we are stuck with 3 at the back - Gordon Souttar McKenna Teirney O'Donnell McGregor McGinn Robertson Forrest McBurnie Naismith I expect it to be more like this - McGregor Souttar Mulgrew Teirney O'Donnell McGregor McDonald McGinn Robertson Russell Naismith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 i wonder what would happen if the entire squad pulled out to concentrate on their fitness as the homeless team to play instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I've said it before - Scotland seem to have a higher proportion of call-offs than other countries, regardless of who is the manager. How many have England had for example so far? and englands games are meaningless as they will just qualify anyway baffling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: Losing Griffiths and Fraser is disappointing. There are two players which I believe we should be setting up to get the best out of them. I think I'd go with something like this now, assuming we are stuck with 3 at the back - Gordon Souttar McKenna Teirney O'Donnell McGregor McGinn Robertson Forrest McBurnie Naismith I expect it to be more like this - McGregor Souttar Mulgrew Teirney O'Donnell McGregor McDonald McGinn Robertson Russell Naismith Not sure about the second one but either way I still feel confident. Not to underestimate Israel but we're a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I've said it before - Scotland seem to have a higher proportion of call-offs than other countries, regardless of who is the manager. How many have England had for example so far? At this point in time, the more selfish players won;t see Scotland as a benefit to them but you can bet your arse they'd be fighting fit if we were on the verge of qualifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, Bino's said: and englands games are meaningless as they will just qualify anyway baffling that's probably why they have less call offs, they want to stay and fight for their place because they know they will be going to a major tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Losing Fraser and Griffith's is a big loss, with Fraser it seems to be a recurring theme, hopefully he isn't just calling off for no reason as we could really do with him as he has shown really good form in the EPL. He will probably be back playing for Bournemouth next week as well which always seems to be the case with alot of our call offs. Hopefully Forrest can step in and recreate his Celtic form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Losing Fraser and Griffith's is a big loss, with Fraser it seems to be a recurring theme, hopefully he isn't just calling off for no reason as we could really do with him as he has shown really good form in the EPL. He will probably be back playing for Bournemouth next week as well which always seems to be the case with alot of our call offs. Hopefully Forrest can step in and recreate his Celtic form. Didn’t there used to be a rule that players couldn’t play for their club after an international if they pulled out without medical evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) A fit and on form Griffiths is a loss, currently not so sure. Ryan Fraser on the other hand I am disappointed to read of that, I really like the lads style and was looking forward to seeing him in once again for us. Edited October 9, 2018 by romanticscot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Griffiths is probably the only Scottish player around at the moment who can produce something out of the ordinary. Ignoring all the drama and hearsay, his unavailability is a blow. Really disappointed to hear Fraser has withdrawn too - if he could transfer his club form to the national side he could have been a match winner for us. He seems to be becoming the new Neil McCann with the amount of times he has pulled out of squads though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Griffiths and Fraser are huge blows. Griffiths is our main striker & Fraser is our next best player after Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Check out @Tetley1988’s Tweet: Ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, vanderark14 said: At this point in time, the more selfish players won;t see Scotland as a benefit to them but you can bet your arse they'd be fighting fit if we were on the verge of qualifying Yes, we have noted their names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Check out @Tetley1988’s Tweet: Ffs A stupid comment. He's not eligible for them. And his appearance in the 2-2 means he is tied to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: A stupid comment. He's not eligible for them. And his appearance in the 2-2 means he is tied to us. It's a joke Twitter account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: Not sure about the second one but either way I still feel confident. Not to underestimate Israel but we're a good team. Isn't that second one the starting line up from the Albania match? I think it's a solid prediction, but I'd much rather see the likes of Fraser and McTominay. I'd also love for McBurnie to be given a start to see what he can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 One thing I think that is important is that we go full-blooded for the win. If we do that I think we'll have too much for them. And no I am not underestimating them but merely looking at facts. We go into the game on the back of a decent win against Albania last month. The same Albania side who, themselves beat Israel. Israel come into the match on a losing streak that stretches over a year of straight defeats. We do have options now which is good. For me I would start with a line-up like this:- McGregor Soutter Mulgrew Tierney O Donnell McGinn McGregor Armstrong Robertson Russell Naismith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyb Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Fraser has been having difficulties with injuries since the start of last season. Howe the Bournemouth manager has consistently said that their priority is to keep him fit because of injuries. he was substituted in the 66th minute to protect him. I think we need him for the really big important games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, sandyb said: Fraser has been having difficulties with injuries since the start of last season. Howe the Bournemouth manager has consistently said that their priority is to keep him fit because of injuries. he was substituted in the 66th minute to protect him. I think we need him for the really big important games. I feel bad now, seems he made a big effort to stay in the squad. Edited October 9, 2018 by er yir macaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, ProudScot said: Griffiths and Fraser are huge blows. Griffiths is our main striker & Fraser is our next best player after Robertson. I’m not sure if Griffiths is our main striker. If he was he’d have started against Albania. He certainly should be our main striker but his erratic form, fitness issues and attitude mean that he’s not a certain starter. I doubt he’d have started against Israel unless McLeish went with both him and Naismith. Maybe McBurnie will get the nod if McLeish fancies 2 up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Rampant Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 According to McLeish, Fraser was desperate to stay with the squad but as he had 'failed' his medical the SFA thought he should be sent back to Bournemouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, vanderark14 said: that's probably why they have less call offs, they want to stay and fight for their place because they know they will be going to a major tournament Imagine the furore if Kane pulled out to save his fitness for a stetched Tottenham squad Talk England and Alan Brazil would be going on about it for weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 52 minutes ago, Lion Rampant said: According to McLeish, Fraser was desperate to stay with the squad but as he had 'failed' his medical the SFA thought he should be sent back to Bournemouth. Just like he failed his medical the last time, was straight back in and has been an ever present in the Bournemouth team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: One thing I think that is important is that we go full-blooded for the win. If we do that I think we'll have too much for them. And no I am not underestimating them but merely looking at facts. We go into the game on the back of a decent win against Albania last month. The same Albania side who, themselves beat Israel. Israel come into the match on a losing streak that stretches over a year of straight defeats. We do have options now which is good. For me I would start with a line-up like this:- McGregor Soutter Mulgrew Tierney O Donnell McGinn McGregor Armstrong Robertson Russell Naismith Armstrong? I’m a firm believer in starting players that are playing regularly for their clubs. Armstrong isn’t even getting on to the Southampton bench at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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