macy37 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 47 minutes ago, dipped flake said: The only cunts that think English is a cunt are bigoted cunts Not correct. I think he’s a cunt because he’s a slavering cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The names mentioned Cosgrove, English, Spiers are the best we currently have commenting on the scottish game. There's a few others who occasionally appear on the BBC who I could add to that. Not only do they have valid views, they are able to put their point across in an articulate manner and if required have a constructive argument. I don't always agree with what they are saying but I think they are the best we have. Try other sources - radio clyde, the record/sun journalists, talk sport, etc and it's just amateur hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Actually, I would probably add Sutton to the list There is no doubt he is a complete wind up merchant and a bit of a dick but he is entertaining and he has a genuine love for our game. One of few that at least fights its corner in the UK wide media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Did anyone else think this was going to be a "deid" thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Cove_Sheep said: Did anyone else think this was going to be a "deid" thread? Have to confess that I did click on it at first with some trepidation along those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 hours ago, dandydunn said: As I said, I heard little of it, but if you’re going to use stats in an arguement, you can’t throw toys out of the pram when someone else uses them against you and say they’re irrelevant. Willie Miller "stat" included friendlies and games when O'Neil had only just took over and when he experimented. He had completely failed to contextualise his "stat". Hence why he ended up sounding like an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Willie Miller "stat" included friendlies and games when O'Neil had only just took over and when he experimented. He had completely failed to contextualise his "stat". Hence why he ended up sounding like an idiot. So we will just count his recent stats then? Can’t believe we sacked Strachan then, that’s like saying since we last played England at Wembley, we haven’t lost once to them, sounds impressive to someone not in the know, but doesn’t tell much of a story. Miller was discussing his overall time in charge, English was talking about 2 qualifying campaigns. Its a ridiculous arguement, he has a 34% win rate (I think they said) and everyone is hailing him as some sort of saviour. If we get him, there will be a transitional period, will we just forget about all of that until we qualify for something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 54 minutes ago, dandydunn said: So we will just count his recent stats then? Can’t believe we sacked Strachan then, that’s like saying since we last played England at Wembley, we haven’t lost once to them, sounds impressive to someone not in the know, but doesn’t tell much of a story. Miller was discussing his overall time in charge, English was talking about 2 qualifying campaigns. Its a ridiculous arguement, he has a 34% win rate (I think they said) and everyone is hailing him as some sort of saviour. If we get him, there will be a transitional period, will we just forget about all of that until we qualify for something? Yeah, actually, I'm happy to only look at qualification and tournament matches. I don't give a shit if he lost a friendly to Cyprus in 2013 TBH. Willie Miller was completely unable to see that to mean anything, stats have to be contextualised. Don't think anyone is hailing him as a saviour. Just someone who's achieved what Scotland haven't for 20 years, with poorer players than we have available to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Parklife said: Yeah, actually, I'm happy to only look at qualification and tournament matches. I don't give a shit if he lost a friendly to Cyprus in 2013 TBH. Willie Miller was completely unable to see that to mean anything, stats have to be contextualised. Don't think anyone is hailing him as a saviour. Just someone who's achieved what Scotland haven't for 20 years, with poorer players than we have available to us. Debatable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 English’s main passion is egg chasing. One of the reasons he’s a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, dandydunn said: So we will just count his recent stats then? Can’t believe we sacked Strachan then, that’s like saying since we last played England at Wembley, we haven’t lost once to them, sounds impressive to someone not in the know, but doesn’t tell much of a story. Miller was discussing his overall time in charge, English was talking about 2 qualifying campaigns. Its a ridiculous arguement, he has a 34% win rate (I think they said) and everyone is hailing him as some sort of saviour. If we get him, there will be a transitional period, will we just forget about all of that until we qualify for something? Who is hailing him as some kind of saviour? Certainly not anyone in the discussion yesterday (most of which you didn't listen to). The stats bit you focus on was a tiny bit of it. The main thrust of it was English being critical of how Regan and the SFA were handling the process of identifying, approaching and appointing Strachan's successor. Not least their publicly identifying him as their target before any approach or contact had been made, and their apparent lack of a Plan B if he knocks them back; Young and Miller said the SFA were handling it fine, would have a short list, and a Plan B. Young and Miller wanted to talk about Strachan and how it had been a mistake to get rid if him. English didn't particularly 'big-up' O'Neill, he said Strachan had been given two chances and had failed, whereas O'Neill had a better record. That's where the stats bit came in. Like Parkie, I'm happy to look at his competitive record, particularly when you consider the quality of player he had at his disposal. He's no miracle worker, despite your claim to the contrary noone is saying he is. But he appears to be within our budget, potentially available and capable of taking a squad of players like we have (or even worse) to a finals. Like English I'd like Regan to get on with it and see if we can get him or not. Miller and Young felt it more important to chutney on about whether or not Strachan should still be in the job. Miller seemed surprised that someone was challenging his words of wisdom. Edited January 14, 2018 by Pool Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, macy37 said: English’s main passion is egg chasing. One of the reasons he’s a cunt. In a long list of ridiculous posts, this your worst. Congratulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Cove_Sheep said: Did anyone else think this was going to be a "deid" thread? He is getting on a bit, even though he doesn't dress like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 13/01/2018 at 5:39 PM, Ormond said: Grew up on the street next to me. Guid cunt. Met him a couple of years back at one of his book launches (Detroit 67) and he was brand new. Talked football for a while and he was telling stories about St Johnstone/Killie games over the years. Really clever guy. Told a funny story about James Brown causing him to miss the Scotland-England game in 89. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 13/01/2018 at 6:55 PM, RenfrewBlue said: If Speirs was chocolate he'd eat himself. He's a total fannybaws who thinks everything he says is important or right. I like him, plus he's brining his kids up as Killie fans. Good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 20 hours ago, Jim Beem said: One of few that at least fights its corner in the UK wide media Aye, I have a bit of respect for him for that. Always talks up the game up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allyc Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 23 hours ago, macy37 said: I’ll repeat for the delusional cunts on here....Tom English is a cunt. I think Tom English is decent.Maybe Tom English thinks your a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gala Tartan Army (Borders) Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Tom English talks a lot of sense and he seems to have been on top of the Michael ONeill story from the start . He is also right about O'Neill being a top international manager, anyone who can qualify for the Euros with Kyle Lafferty as your main striker gets my.vote . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 52 minutes ago, Gala Tartan Army (Borders) said: Tom English talks a lot of sense and he seems to have been on top of the Michael ONeill story from the start . He is also right about O'Neill being a top international manager, anyone who can qualify for the Euros with Kyle Lafferty as your main striker gets my.vote . I have to admit, until seeing Lafferty recently at Pittodrie, I hadn't realised just quite how p1sh he is..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, SMcoolJ said: I have to admit, until seeing Lafferty recently at Pittodrie, I hadn't realised just quite how p1sh he is..... I would be quite happy to have him in our squad. I wonder if we will ever again see a Scotland player get 20 international goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: I like him, plus he's brining his kids up as Killie fans. Good enough for me. Anybody who brings up bairns to follow their local side is a good cunt. Unless you’re a sparkie fae Aberdeen. They’re just acceptable cunts. Edited January 15, 2018 by Ormond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 7 hours ago, allyc said: I think Tom English is decent.Maybe Tom English thinks your a cunt. Fingers crossed. You too hopefully? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: I like him, plus he's brining his kids up as Killie fans. Good enough for me. So we can child abuse to his charge sheet then? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Cosgrove is an excellent broadcaster, very knowledgeable, funny, and sound. English is our best sports journalist by a country mile. Thompson, Stewart and Bonner are all not bad too. Even just writing the names of Willie Miller, Keith Jackson, Chick Young, Kris Boyd looks ridiculous in attempting to compare them to the rest as pundits/journalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 54 minutes ago, weekevie04 said: Cosgrove is an excellent broadcaster, very knowledgeable, funny, and sound. English is our best sports journalist by a country mile. Thompson, Stewart and Bonner are all not bad too. Even just writing the names of Willie Miller, Keith Jackson, Chick Young, Kris Boyd looks ridiculous in attempting to compare them to the rest as pundits/journalists. Agree with most of this but Paddy Bonner? 😀 He's every bit as bad as Derek Johnstone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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