SamP Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 France looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, fringo said: They often are in WCs I recall. I always try and watch their games but unlike today, you normal get 4-5 goal thrillers.. Aye, I've always liked Mexico. They usually try to play entertaining football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, SamP said: France looking good. Their opposition had players from Stoke, Ross County & St Mirren in their ranks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, SamP said: France looking good. Against a team that Jason Cummings can get a game in. They looked very efficient though. Mbappe looks like the new Pele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Against a team that Jason Cummings can get a game in. They looked very efficient though. Mbappe looks like the new Pele. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 13 hours ago, JECK said: You see these comments every tournaments we’re not there. Aye cause we would have strolled past USA 3-0 clearly. Both wales and USA are better than you think and both would probably edge us if the turkey performance is anything to go by.Remember when we were at the euros and a pretty average Czech team done us 2-0, it was embarrassing, still livid about that game. We were like rabbits in the headlights. And  outclassed in the most part v Croatia. We only showed up v England meaning we can’t raise our game consistently which just isn’t good enough. Qatar and Iran were pish, Wales were slightly better when they started hoofing it up to their Lyndon Dykes. Who said anything about strolling past USA? The facts are there are worse teams than us at the World Cup, mainly to do with having teams from all regions but it is still irritating. Oh and Australia were terrible tonight too, another example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 World cup is alwaiys interesting to guage where we are at. Â From what i have seen so far, i would only be confident against qatar and iran, maybe Australia, but think they are close to our level. rest we would have to play above ourselves to beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Martin Keown is good isnt he ? Lewandowski has just missed a penalty and the girl doing the commentary says that he has still never scored at a World Cup Finals tournament Martin - "Im sure if he gets a chance he'll take it" .................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Martin Keown is good isnt he ? Lewandowski has just missed a penalty and the girl doing the commentary says that he has still never scored at a World Cup Finals tournament Martin - "Im sure if he gets a chance he'll take it" .................. Thats John Hartson levels of stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, dandydunn said:  😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 59 minutes ago, kumnio said: Thats John Hartson levels of stupidity. I never realised how annoying he was until yesterday 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Nice video highlighting Christian Pulisic's contribution to USA vs Wales: He's a good player to watch. Always seems to have that extra bit of time on the ball (that all the great players have). Not everything came off, but some things he did were almost Modric-esque (e.g. the way he set up the goal 01:15). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 11 hours ago, runningtings said: Qatar and Iran were pish, Wales were slightly better when they started hoofing it up to their Lyndon Dykes. Who said anything about strolling past USA? The facts are there are worse teams than us at the World Cup, mainly to do with having teams from all regions but it is still irritating. Oh and Australia were terrible tonight too, another example. The World Cup contains 31 teams who qualified (and Qatar). Sure Qatar and Iran were piss poor but even if you were to take them out and bolster the tournament we would not even be two of the back-up teams. You'd opt for Italy and Ukraine or even a South American side. Pretty sure there may be other teams that would get in before us after that. Scotland's national team has to show more professionalism, more balls and determination and consistency. That goes a long way in world football as Wales have shown. If they can do it there is no reason why, with real application why we cannot but we need to improve in a number of mental departments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: The World Cup contains 31 teams who qualified (and Qatar). Sure Qatar and Iran were piss poor but even if you were to take them out and bolster the tournament we would not even be two of the back-up teams. You'd opt for Italy and Ukraine or even a South American side. Pretty sure there may be other teams that would get in before us after that. Scotland's national team has to show more professionalism, more balls and determination and consistency. That goes a long way in world football as Wales have shown. If they can do it there is no reason why, with real application why we cannot but we need to improve in a number of mental departments. Having Gareth Bale helps Wales enormously too. Take him out of their team and I'm genuinely not sure they qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: Having Gareth Bale helps Wales enormously too. Take him out of their team and I'm genuinely not sure they qualify. It helps but it is not the whole reason. Look back to Wales sides in the past who did not qualify with Ian Rush or Mark Hughes or Ryan Giggs in the side. It is about more than one man - the side has great belief within and confidence garnered from 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: It helps but it is not the whole reason. Look back to Wales sides in the past who did not qualify with Ian Rush or Mark Hughes or Ryan Giggs in the side. It is about more than one man - the side has great belief within and confidence garnered from 2016. I agree. I think a lack of confidence is actually a Scottish trait (at least in modern-day Scotland). Look at the Saudi's yesterday. Total self-confidence, right up to the 120th minute or whatever it was. I love our current squad of players, some great footballers amongst them. But they're carrying the burden of the Scottish Nation's lack of confidence on their shoulders. (Just my opinion). Edited November 23, 2022 by mcguffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 58 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: The World Cup contains 31 teams who qualified (and Qatar). Sure Qatar and Iran were piss poor but even if you were to take them out and bolster the tournament we would not even be two of the back-up teams. You'd opt for Italy and Ukraine or even a South American side. Pretty sure there may be other teams that would get in before us after that. Scotland's national team has to show more professionalism, more balls and determination and consistency. That goes a long way in world football as Wales have shown. If they can do it there is no reason why, with real application why we cannot but we need to improve in a number of mental departments. I don't we can judge teams on single matches - if you judged us on our performance against Ukraine in the play-off alone, we wouldn't be anywhere near promotion to Nations League A. Iran did win their qualifying group ahead of South Korea; Qatar are Asian champions, beating Saudi Arabia, South Korea and Japan along the way, and reached the semi-final of the North American Gold Cup, narrowly losing to the USA in Texas. Obviously that's quite different to qualifying out of the European or South American qualifiers, but they're not joke sides. Italy, Ukraine, Hungary, the Czechs and Sweden would all be in for a shout for European sides who'd be ahead of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said: I don't we can judge teams on single matches - if you judged us on our performance against Ukraine in the play-off alone, we wouldn't be anywhere near promotion to Nations League A. Iran did win their qualifying group ahead of South Korea; Qatar are Asian champions, beating Saudi Arabia, South Korea and Japan along the way, and reached the semi-final of the North American Gold Cup, narrowly losing to the USA in Texas. Obviously that's quite different to qualifying out of the European or South American qualifiers, but they're not joke sides. Italy, Ukraine, Hungary, the Czechs and Sweden would all be in for a shout for European sides who'd be ahead of us. Yes but my point was we are not there because we came up short at the key moments. The likes of Wales, for all our fans seem to hate them, rise to the occasion when the pressure is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Caledonian Craig said: Yes but my point was we are not there because we came up short at the key moments. The likes of Wales, for all our fans seem to hate them, rise to the occasion when the pressure is on. Of course. Wales have clearly been a team for a while; they've had Bale to get them out of some holes, but even when they've not had him available they've got some good results. On paper, we've had a stronger squad that them over the past decade, but they've seemingly had the fight and confidence we've not had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Clyde1998 said: Of course. Wales have clearly been a team for a while; they've had Bale to get them out of some holes, but even when they've not had him available they've got some good results. On paper, we've had a stronger squad that them over the past decade, but they've seemingly had the fight and confidence we've not had. Yes I agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy C Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 5 hours ago, mcguffin said: I agree. I think a lack of confidence is actually a Scottish trait (at least in modern-day Scotland). Look at the Saudi's yesterday. Total self-confidence, right up to the 120th minute or whatever it was. I love our current squad of players, some great footballers amongst them. But they're carrying the burden of the Scottish Nation's lack of confidence on their shoulders. (Just my opinion). ^^^^this. I am in no doubt that this is a factor. Not the biggest factor, or even in the top 5. But an additional factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Looks like a changing of the (old) guard in International football Too many of the top sides havent replaced really old stalwarts and it is showing Famous last words but if you look at the results of Costa Rica on soccerway there is no way they should be 22/1 in the current climate against Spain  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:  Famous last words but if you look at the results of Costa Rica on soccerway there is no way they should be 22/1 in the current climate against Spain  50s looks more appropriate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Fairbairn said: 50s looks more appropriate! I dont half talk some shite ! Maybe it will be Canada then for the next shock - beat Japan last week in a friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I think we might give Costa Rica a good game although I thought that last time as well. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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