Eisegerwind Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Ally Bongo said: They will probably continue to "manage" the death rate - which many have suggested is what is happening now - but yes Here is the Korea story https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/10/south-korea-reports-recovered-coronavirus-patients-testing-positive/ Soz. I edited my post cause I sort of decided to ask questions rather than make up my own stuff cause that's pretty easy to do and not that helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Just read recovering patients in Korea testing positive again. WTF???š³š³š³ Link? Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Link? Ā Watching CBC breaking news mate here in Canada.. Said 94 recovered patients IĀ South Korea test positive again..FFs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Link? Ā https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2020-04-10/south-korea-says-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-again%3Fcontext%3Damp&ved=2ahUKEwj40peo7d7oAhXpmXIEHanoACoQ0PADMAN6BAgKEBI&usg=AOvVaw0vrf0DpsSYmU8_NhtCkw4r&cf=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2020-04-10/south-korea-says-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-again%3Fcontext%3Damp&ved=2ahUKEwj40peo7d7oAhXpmXIEHanoACoQ0PADMAN6BAgKEBI&usg=AOvVaw0vrf0DpsSYmU8_NhtCkw4r&cf=1 Cheers. 'Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said during a briefing that the virus may have "reactivated" in the patients rather than them becoming reinfected, Reuters reported.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennyās Yard Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Letās hope they were false positives when first tested, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Cheers. 'Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said during a briefing that the virus may have "reactivated" in the patients rather than them becoming reinfected, Reuters reported.' No bother pal.š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I'm involved with a couple of lung health forums which are administered by researchers & respiratory specialists. I've stuck a question up to see what their thoughts are on the likely explanation...I suspect they will come back with a 'it's too early to know for sure' but if they offer any new insight or have anything of interest to say, I'll pass it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just in case anyone was taking the measures taken to curb the virus in the UK seriously... https://skwawkbox.org/2020/04/10/video-flights-continue-to-stream-into-uk-from-cv-hotspots-there-are-no-checks-on-passengers/ VIDEO: FLIGHTS CONTINUE TO STREAM INTO UK FROM CV HOTSPOTS. THERE ARE NO CHECKS ON PASSENGERSā¦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I'm told that one possible explanation for the Korean numbers may be down to the quality of the testing kits they've used...early in the outbreak they were heavily reliant on a Chinese manufactured testing kit which was later shown to have an accuracy level of between 20 & 40% (WHO standards require 80%+ apparently). I don't know what that means in terms of throwing up errors, but the potential for a lot of false positive readings may be part of the explanation. http://www.asianews.it/news-en/COVID-19:-Chinese-companies-selling-defective-test-kits-abroad-49698.html Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, thplinth said: Just in case anyone was taking the measures taken to curb the virus in the UK seriously... https://skwawkbox.org/2020/04/10/video-flights-continue-to-stream-into-uk-from-cv-hotspots-there-are-no-checks-on-passengers/ VIDEO: FLIGHTS CONTINUE TO STREAM INTO UK FROM CV HOTSPOTS. THERE ARE NO CHECKS ON PASSENGERSā¦ They are still allowing flights in? Madness.Ā Yet the cops will stop folk going to the parkĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardy Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: They are still allowing flights in? Madness.Ā Yet the cops will stop folk going to the parkĀ Do these flights have many passengers.Ā As I understand it,Ā a lot of these commercialĀ flights are mainly to continue freight routes. Would like to see the number of passengers through Heathrow.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Pretty damning but unsurprising: https://www.hsj.co.uk/coronavirus/exclusive-hancock-setting-a-bad-example-on-social-distancing-say-nhs-leaders/7027385.article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Austerity won the day https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/03/30/cygn-m30.html The Tories were also responsible for the Mad Cow disease epidemic 30 years ago that will probably still have implications for us https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/its-23-years-scandal-mad-17792783 And yet the Tories apparently are as popular as ever.Ā And as we know austerity was always for the many and not for the few.Ā Our media must take a lot of the blame.Ā I'm notĀ a big fan of Alistair Campbell but I think he's pretty much spot on here: https://www.thearticle.com/media-questions-at-no10-briefings-are-woeful-here-are-20-they-should-ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, Huddersfield said: I'm told that one possible explanation for the Korean numbers may be down to the quality of the testing kits they've used...early in the outbreak they were heavily reliant on a Chinese manufactured testing kit which was later shown to have an accuracy level of between 20 & 40% (WHO standards require 80%+ apparently). I don't know what that means in terms of throwing up errors, but the potential for a lot of false positive readings may be part of the explanation. http://www.asianews.it/news-en/COVID-19:-Chinese-companies-selling-defective-test-kits-abroad-49698.html Ā The PCR testing we are doing in the UK won't be 100% accurate either. I would guess no more than 90%, maybe less.Ā The lab test is only one of the tools used by doctors to decide if a person has COVID-19 (or most other viral diseases for that matter). Diagnosing the symptoms still plays a huge part, as do x-rays. CT scans are much better but I would imagine that the NHS just doesn't have enough CT scanners to cope with the likely demand? This is a new disease. Doctors are still learning how to diagnose the symptoms. Medical Lab Scientists are learning how to use the new test kits. The test kits themselves are being continually developed and improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Like everything i dont know if a lot of this is true or whether it's anti Chinese propaganda Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardy Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Like everything i dont know if a lot of this is true or whether it's anti Chinese propaganda Ā That guy has a ridiculous amount of content on his channel. He really doesn't like China. I suspect his view is not balanced. As to the numbers in China, time will tell i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, beardy said: That guy has a ridiculous amount of content on his channel. He really doesn't like China. I suspect his view is not balanced. As to the numbers in China, time will tell i guess. Him and another fanny calledĀ laowhy86 are well known for pursuing anĀ 'everything china is bad line'. Not worth listening to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Seems to be getting his information from this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8178365/China-imported-2billion-masks-peak-coronavirus-crisis.html https://www.businessinsider.com/china-face-mask-defective-double-check-instructions-2020-4?r=US&IR=T https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11347133/italy-buy-back-coronavirus-masks-donated-china/ Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Like everything i dont know if a lot of this is true or whether it's anti Chinese propaganda Ā How many friends does this guy have in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 4/9/2020 at 4:29 PM, Big Ramy 1314 said: Just back from the hospital here in Ottawa. Had my big toe nail.removed for a biopsy. I had to go as the specialist wanted it done asap. In saying that, I was very uneasy going to the hospital with this C19 going around. I shaved my beard off at my wife's request so I get a better seal with my mask. I also wore surgical gloves. I stayed fuck away from everyone. Thing that shocked me there were folk walking around, no mask, no gloves, touching shit and what not. I could not believe it. Maybe I just overreacted, but not a pleasant morning. Wearing gloves is pointless unless you change them every 15 minutes or every time you touch something. You canāt catch the virus through your hands.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: How many friends does this guy have in China? Stays in Hong Kong so presumably a lot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: Wearing gloves is pointless unless you change them every 15 minutes or every time you touch something. You canāt catch the virus through your hands.Ā You can if you touch your face after. I do not give a flying fuck, I wore the gloves, and threw them away in the bin as I exited the hospital. it makes me sleep better atĀ night.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Stays in Hong Kong so presumably a lot ? Fair enough. Not sure if living in Hong Kong means you automatically have several friends living in mainland China but he could well do.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: You can if you touch your face after. I do not give a flying fuck, I wore the gloves, and threw them away in the bin as I exited the hospital. it makes me sleep better atĀ night.. That would also happen if you touched your face while wearing the gloves. You also have to touch the glovesĀ to take them off so you still need to wash your hands anyway. If it makes you feel better then fair enough but you were talking as if people were doing something wrong by not wearing gloves which really isnāt the case.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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