Scout Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 If I was Alex Mcleish I'd also be talking to my X team mate Bryan Gunn and see if we can get his son Angus into our squad - I know he's been in England squads from 16 to 21s but Bryan is a Scottish international his son should follow suit. If not goalkeeper could be a problem position going forward with Gordon - McGregor - Marshall all getting older/injured /not playing Leaves Archer millwall and possibly McLaughlin Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borojock Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On the bigger subject i think we do need to be a bit cuter and structured with dual citizen players at a younger age group. We need to identify players in Scotland that could play for someone else and those in England that could play for us and send a someone with a name and reputation to meet them and start wooing them at a young age and get them feeling positive and passionate about scotland and build that relationship and connection I see we lost a player called Terry Taylor to Wales, only 16 moved in the summer from Aberdeen to Wolves, hes played for Scotland at youth level and then for some reason joined Wales. Now he might not come of anything but i said the same thing about James McCarthy at a similar age and he would of been a value to Scotland Also agree with you 100% im worried where we will be goalie wise in 2 years as Gordon, McGregor and Marshall will probably all be gone leaving us very thin on the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Think chances are slim for Gunn. I once met his dad and joked about it with him, but end of the day the boy was born in England and grew up and lived there his whole life (plus his mum is English). He is well in with the England set up and thought of very highly by them, so chances are very slim that he will have a change of heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 For me our best goalie right now is Jon McLaughlin who is 30. Between him and Jordan Archer we should be fine for the next while & have Robbie McCrorie coming through who looks like he has a lot of potential. Lets focus on the future with the squads coming up please Eck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I'm sure I've read somewhere that Gunn Jnr has always been a massive England fan, I'd rather him stay within the England setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Think I've said it before but he might regret his choice. Certainly with Pickford and Butland England should be well served in that particular department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 You all seem to forget that goalies mature in their thirties. Think Italy and Zoff, Buffon, Alberstosi - think the greatest of all, Lev Yashin at 40. Far too early to start fretting about the succession - there will be more to join Robbie McCrorie 'fore too long. Archer and MacLaughlin can buy us time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I came across a good article about Bryan Gunn just the other day http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/author-of-a-different-kind-of-football-book-fighting-back-with-the-gunns-421437.html He's quoted as saying Quote Angus is also a keeper, a fan of Robert Green and Petr Cech, and already plays for Norwich's Under-12s. "He says he wants to play for England, but I've registered him with the Scottish FA, too, don't you worry." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Fuck him he’s English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 14 hours ago, ProudScot said: For me our best goalie right now is Jon McLaughlin who is 30. Between him and Jordan Archer we should be fine for the next while & have Robbie McCrorie coming through who looks like he has a lot of potential. Lets focus on the future with the squads coming up please Eck. McLaughlin is a great shot stopper, one of those keepers that just seems to have the knack for being in the right place at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 14 hours ago, Third Lanark said: You all seem to forget that goalies mature in their thirties. Think Italy and Zoff, Buffon, Alberstosi - think the greatest of all, Lev Yashin at 40. Far too early to start fretting about the succession - there will be more to join Robbie McCrorie 'fore too long. Archer and MacLaughlin can buy us time. For every keeper who was good nearing 40 I will name you a hundred that weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 17 hours ago, wanderer said: Think chances are slim for Gunn. I once met his dad and joked about it with him, but end of the day the boy was born in England and grew up and lived there his whole life (plus his mum is English). He is well in with the England set up and thought of very highly by them, so chances are very slim that he will have a change of heart. I'd be surprised if he ever plays for us too. If he doesn't get a look in for England he might have a change of heart, but since he's come up through their youth system and he's now playing regularly on loan at Norwich I'd be surprised if that happened. A pity, because from what I've seen of him he looks the real deal. 52 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: For every keeper who was good nearing 40 I will name you a hundred that weren't. Craig Gordon, although he's not near 40 yet, doesn't look the keeper he was before his last serious injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 20 hours ago, Scout said: If I was Alex Mcleish I'd also be talking to my X team mate Bryan Gunn and see if we can get his son Angus into our squad - I know he's been in England squads from 16 to 21s but Bryan is a Scottish international his son should follow suit. If not goalkeeper could be a problem position going forward with Gordon - McGregor - Marshall all getting older/injured /not playing Leaves Archer millwall and possibly McLaughlin Hearts Not having a go, everyone entitled to their opinion. But this guy has openly said he’s supported England all his life and has played for them at youth level and said that is who he wants to play for. Yet you still would want our manager to go and convince him to pull on a Scotland shirt? I just don’t get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, scotlad said: I'd be surprised if he ever plays for us too. If he doesn't get a look in for England he might have a change of heart, but since he's come up through their youth system and he's now playing regularly on loan at Norwich I'd be surprised if that happened. A pity, because from what I've seen of him he looks the real deal. Craig Gordon, although he's not near 40 yet, doesn't look the keeper he was before his last serious injury. In which case we should tell him to fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Bzzzz said: McLaughlin is a great shot stopper, one of those keepers that just seems to have the knack for being in the right place at the right time. Funny I always looked it the the other way, great shot stoppers were in the wrong place that's why they had to make great stops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Archer has played very well this season, should get a chance in these friendlies to stake claim to be number one in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 28/02/2018 at 8:51 PM, borojock said: On the bigger subject i think we do need to be a bit cuter and structured with dual citizen players at a younger age group. We need to identify players in Scotland that could play for someone else and those in England that could play for us and send a someone with a name and reputation to meet them and start wooing them at a young age and get them feeling positive and passionate about scotland and build that relationship and connection I see we lost a player called Terry Taylor to Wales, only 16 moved in the summer from Aberdeen to Wolves, hes played for Scotland at youth level and then for some reason joined Wales. Now he might not come of anything but i said the same thing about James McCarthy at a similar age and he would of been a value to Scotland Also agree with you 100% im worried where we will be goalie wise in 2 years as Gordon, McGregor and Marshall will probably all be gone leaving us very thin on the ground Ironically the young Mr Taylor was back in our setup again as you can see: Perhaps just me but I do not understand those who can chop and change their nationality. Obviously I take far too much pride in mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 10 hours ago, macy37 said: Fuck him he’s English. This. No intention of playing for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 On 28/02/2018 at 8:51 PM, borojock said: On the bigger subject i think we do need to be a bit cuter and structured with dual citizen players at a younger age group. We need to identify players in Scotland that could play for someone else and those in England that could play for us and send a someone with a name and reputation to meet them and start wooing them at a young age and get them feeling positive and passionate about scotland and build that relationship and connection I see we lost a player called Terry Taylor to Wales, only 16 moved in the summer from Aberdeen to Wolves, hes played for Scotland at youth level and then for some reason joined Wales. Now he might not come of anything but i said the same thing about James McCarthy at a similar age and he would of been a value to Scotland Also agree with you 100% im worried where we will be goalie wise in 2 years as Gordon, McGregor and Marshall will probably all be gone leaving us very thin on the ground It's difficult though Shelvey was courted in levein s time He said no and has a couple of England caps He could have 30 caps for us and be the centre of our team But would he have ever performed if picked, would he have given a fuck You have to work out whether they actually want it and will properly turn up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, Bino's said: It's difficult though Shelvey was courted in levein s time He said no and has a couple of England caps He could have 30 caps for us and be the centre of our team But would he have ever performed if picked, would he have given a fuck You have to work out whether they actually want it and will properly turn up Shelvey’s shite. No chance he’d have got 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ormond said: Shelvey’s shite. No chance he’d have got 30. Of course he would He runs the game when plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Bino's said: Of course he would He runs the game when plays Pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ormond said: Pish. Who would have kept him out of the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bino's said: Who would have kept him out of the team Scott Brown is a better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Ormond said: Scott Brown is a better player. Shelvey can pick a pass and take a shot at goal but runs around and kick's folk like brown does as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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