Orraloon Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 38 minutes ago, Regenmann said: They voted for IDS, wee Willie Hague and Michael Howard, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if she beats May. Folk that join political parties tend to be swivel-eyed zoomers. On a point of pedantry, I think Michael Howard was uncontested, so the party members didn't actually vote for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenmann Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Orraloon said: On a point of pedantry, I think Michael Howard was uncontested, so the party members didn't actually vote for him. Thank you, Mr Loon - I'd forgotten that! It would have taken a brave man / woman challenge Mr Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 With Theresa May it's a case of what you see is what you get, whether or not people think that's good or not. Given that she's been Home Secretary for six years - one of the cabinet posts where you are most likely to get involved in some sort if scandal or fiasco and get sacked - I'd imagine that any skeletons that might have been in her cupboard would have come out long before now. For Leasdom, she's more of an unknown and that can work in her favour as she can present herself as a "breath of fresh air". However, it also means that she'll be put under a lot more scrutinity than she's ever been before. You're already seeing that with accusations that she's lied on her CV and some of her crazier previous comments coming to light. It'll be interesting to see how much more of this comes out in the next couple of months. Personally I can't see past May but stranger things have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Ruth Davidson playing a clever wee game today. Has said that whoever wins the contest will be invited to her wedding. Leadsom is anti-gay marriage. Opportunity for an interviewer to put her on the spot, but I doubt any of them will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 the only time i saw that leadsom during the campaign was on one of those tv debates. i genuinely thought she was completely out of her depth and just thought it was a business leader that wasn't able to speak like a poltician so gave her the benefit of the doubt. incredible she's seen a rising star. who are these pundits!? They do it in Scotland too - Neil Bibby, Jenny Marra, Dugdale, McKay are all of a poor standard but venerated constantly. utter wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Personal attack, or stitch up? http://news.sky.com/story/leadsom-being-a-mum-gives-me-more-of-a-stake-10496432 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I will no doubt regret this, but Theresa May comes across as that rarest of rare breeds; quite a likeable (and voteable) Tory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 20 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Personal attack, or stitch up? http://news.sky.com/story/leadsom-being-a-mum-gives-me-more-of-a-stake-10496432 Lots of direct quotes in the original article. Newspapers make a lot of stuff up and twist things even more but they tend not to do that with direct quotes. It's too easy to caught out on that as you just have to go back to the original notes or recordings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 minute ago, thewolf_1980 said: I will no doubt regret this, but Theresa May comes across as that rarest of rare breeds; quite a likeable (and voteable) Tory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Told you I'd regret it! ? I maintain that, of all options, she's the candidate with the least baggage and therefore the most suitable candidate. That's not saying all that much though. Edited July 8, 2016 by thewolf_1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I bet the T-shirt didn't say that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, thewolf_1980 said: I will no doubt regret this, but Theresa May comes across as that rarest of rare breeds; quite a likeable (and voteable) Tory. She's been my MP since she was elected in 1997 and while clearly I've never voted for her I would have to say that she comes across as a very active and good constituency MP, even after becoming Home Secretary. I don't agree with her politics but personally she comes across as being pretty decent. She's also a lot taller than she appears on TV. i suppose it means that if she becomes PM we'll get a whole range of nut job candidates on the ballot paper next time rather than just UKIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 13 hours ago, biffer said: Ruth Davidson playing a clever wee game today. Has said that whoever wins the contest will be invited to her wedding. Leadsom is anti-gay marriage. Opportunity for an interviewer to put her on the spot, but I doubt any of them will. She's "St Ruth - Savior of the Union" and "the woman 'the natz' are frightened of" (aye right), nae chance will she be held to account by her fawning wee pals at the Scotsman or the Herald. Her speeches and statements in the last fortnight about Brexit and how it will affect Scotland have been confusing and contradictory, even Kezia Dugdale was able to score some hits on Davidson in Holyrood, she's been that bad ! I actually think Davidson will chuck her current job in 2019/20 and get herself selected to contest a safe Westminster seat in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenmann Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) As well as lying on her CV, Leadsom must surely be lying about her age - she looks more 73 than 53 - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm3vHdUWYAAFw9-.jpg:large A thoroughly unpleasant woman. Edited July 9, 2016 by Regenmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 7 hours ago, thewolf_1980 said: Told you I'd regret it! ? I maintain that, of all options, she's the candidate with the least baggage and therefore the most suitable candidate. That's not saying all that much though. Sounds like you have got a vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Compared to her opponent May could be viewed as a left wing reactionary.This is a section of Leadsmom's speech from four years ago "I could envisage a situation where you had no regulation whatsoever, no minimum wage, no maternity or paternity rights, no unfair dismissal rights, and no pension rights - absolutely no regulation whatsoever for the very smallest companies that are trying to get off the ground." Her views on Gay Marriage together with her strong christian convictions makes her an ideal member of the Tea Party. Edited July 9, 2016 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: Sounds like you have got a vote? Eh, no. I'm expressing an opinion, like a few others on this thread. Rangers fan = Tory? Nice stereotyping... Edited July 9, 2016 by thewolf_1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant grebner Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I want Leadsom to win. She's a vile human being who will completely fvck up the Brexit negotiations. Exactly the sort of cretin you want in office to see us through the last days of the U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, thewolf_1980 said: Eh, no. I'm expressing an opinion, like a few others on this thread. Rangers fan = Tory? Nice stereotyping... I've yet to meet a Tory who is prepared to admit it. Edited July 9, 2016 by Orraloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 On 8 July 2016 at 6:55 AM, Regenmann said: They voted for IDS, wee Willie Hague and Michael Howard, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if she beats May. Folk that join political parties tend to be swivel-eyed zoomers. ? I'm in a political party and draw the line at being called a swivel eyed zoomer, stereotype away why don't you. That said , I seen half a dozen Tory party members being interviewed on BBC the other night. It couldnt have been more stage managed if they had burst into a chorus of Jersualem. One young guy, an older lady , a black guy etc , all hand picked to represent a politically correct party. They were near wetting themselves with excitement. People who join political parties generally tend to be passionate about it and in the case of the Conservatives there will be quite a number of far right that will vote for Leadsom. I would not write her off either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 16 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: She's "St Ruth - Savior of the Union" and "the woman 'the natz' are frightened of" (aye right), nae chance will she be held to account by her fawning wee pals at the Scotsman or the Herald. Her speeches and statements in the last fortnight about Brexit and how it will affect Scotland have been confusing and contradictory, even Kezia Dugdale was able to score some hits on Davidson in Holyrood, she's been that bad ! I actually think Davidson will chuck her current job in 2019/20 and get herself selected to contest a safe Westminster seat in England. An opportunity to put Leadsom on the spot you dullard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Leadsom sounds like real mentalist, here's hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Andrea Loathsome is a bitch. Y'all got it yet?? An utter disgrace to humanity.. And a liar too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 8 hours ago, biffer said: An opportunity to put Leadsom on the spot you dullard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenmann Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 16 hours ago, TDYER63 said: ? I'm in a political party and draw the line at being called a swivel eyed zoomer, stereotype away why don't you. That said , I seen half a dozen Tory party members being interviewed on BBC the other night. It couldnt have been more stage managed if they had burst into a chorus of Jersualem. One young guy, an older lady , a black guy etc , all hand picked to represent a politically correct party. They were near wetting themselves with excitement. People who join political parties generally tend to be passionate about it and in the case of the Conservatives there will be quite a number of far right that will vote for Leadsom. I would not write her off either. I did say 'tend' . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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