86glebestreet Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 20 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: Who allowed you to use my photo ??? And your best one at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 29 minutes ago, Mee said: Osborne is going all in with his draft budget. Tories ripped in two now and talks of votes of no confidence. The Tories are impoding. No problem with that, it's simply that they want to take the rest of the country with them. Nicola has it spot on here... http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14556787.Nicola_Sturgeon__Leave_campaign_is_an_attempted_coup_by_right_wing_Tories/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Regenmann said: Simply not true - my girlfriend humiliatingly dumped me for a Bulgarian with a missing front tooth . That's one of the best reasons I've seen yet to vote leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 9 hours ago, Dave78 said: Scottish vote prediction seems to be narrowing.... http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/06/britain-s-eu-referendum I would treat any "Scottish" polls on the EU referendum with a very big pinch of salt as they will be based on subsamples which could be as low as around 150 people from an overall poll of 2000 people. I'm not aware of any Scotland only polling using a statistically significant sample. i'm not saying it's wrong but just that I wouldn't read anything into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Flora MaDonald said: If it's any consolation, I pumped a Bulgarian burd. And an even better reason to vote remain. When you boil it all down to the absolute basics it all comes down to sex really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Regenmann said: And, that's me oot again. This is going to be a hard decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, aaid said: I would treat any "Scottish" polls on the EU referendum with a very big pinch of salt as they will be based on subsamples which could be as low as around 150 people from an overall poll of 2000 people. I'm not aware of any Scotland only polling using a statistically significant sample. i'm not saying it's wrong but just that I wouldn't read anything into it. I agree with what you say about the polls, but I will be surprised if the result is much different in Scotland to what it is in the rest of the UK. We are all being subjected to the same propaganda from both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenmann Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: Who allowed you to use my photo ??? I was a bit mean and chose the least flattering one I could find - sorry . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 20 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I agree with what you say about the polls, but I will be surprised if the result is much different in Scotland to what it is in the rest of the UK. We are all being subjected to the same propaganda from both sides. You're forgetting that we are an idiot robot cult that does whatever Nicola tells us to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Orraloon said: I agree with what you say about the polls, but I will be surprised if the result is much different in Scotland to what it is in the rest of the UK. We are all being subjected to the same propaganda from both sides. I disagree there. The figures for Scotland have generally been well in favour of remain. However we maybe need to consider the blatant attempts by Osborne and Cameron to annoy Scotland and destroy the remain lead - an utterly keech campaign and has possibly hit a raw nerve here as we have seen it before. I am voting remain, but I'd almost vote no just to get it right up these pr1cks to let them know my reasons and theirs are poles apart (see what I did there?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 5 hours ago, 86glebestreet said: And your best one at that I disagree. You cant even see my new dentures never mind my allluring smile. If i recall, i had just been critised for my weekly food spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Quite how anyone in the remain camp thought that the same tactic which took them from a 35 point lead down to a 10 point lead in the Scottish referendum was a good idea in an EU referendum which was much closer to start with is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, biffer said: Quite how anyone in the remain camp thought that the same tactic which took them from a 35 point lead down to a 10 point lead in the Scottish referendum was a good idea in an EU referendum which was much closer to start with is beyond me. Probably because they won and it was that what got them over the line The stupidity lies in that they played the card too early meaning that a lot of people are now immunized for the 2 weeks to go ramping it up I still think it will have the same effect to probably a similar margin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 7 hours ago, aaid said: I would treat any "Scottish" polls on the EU referendum with a very big pinch of salt as they will be based on subsamples which could be as low as around 150 people from an overall poll of 2000 people. I'm not aware of any Scotland only polling using a statistically significant sample. i'm not saying it's wrong but just that I wouldn't read anything into it. We will vote to remain, I am pretty certain of that, however, you only have to have been on this message board regularly over the last 18 months or so to have seen an increase in right wing rhetoric in scottish society. Although wishing to leave the EU is not a predominantly right wing trait (some lefties are all for it), most of those pushing for it are right wing, i'm alright Jack types and I have seen and heard more of these types of people coming out of the woodwork in Scotland than at anytime previously in my life. Since the referendum, the stigma of being vocally right wing has been partially lifted and I am pretty certain that leave will push remain closer than people think up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Anyone else see Bob Geldof gatecrashing the brexit campaign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Once you open those constraints on nationalism then it's very difficult to stop the basic of all emotions. Nationalism promises all things to all men (and women). Flags, bogeyman (immigration) and a golden future. The holy trinity of madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Milk and honey anyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We have no need for that here in the land of chocolate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 6 hours ago, scotlad said: We have no need for that here in the land of chocolate. Taking it too far ... 10 hours ago, biffer said: Quite how anyone in the remain camp thought that the same tactic which took them from a 35 point lead down to a 10 point lead in the Scottish referendum was a good idea in an EU referendum which was much closer to start with is beyond me. A complacent belief that because the big knobs leading the Leave campaign really are a huge bunch of cocks the 'silent majority' would vote against them rather than independently think that maybe the EU isn't fit for purpose? Whatever the case, there's certainly been massive complacency and, as Rossy says, it's effectively destroyed the current version of the Conservative party. It's remarkable that this outcome wasn't predicted (regardless of the result). I can't see Osbourne surviving this, and Cameron will be lucky to get passed the next Tory conference even if there's a vote to Remain. Every cloud ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 So, Donny. In out or just shake it all about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I think Scotland will vote to remain, as will the rest of the UK, but I think Scotlands vote will be a lot closer than what some people assume. I've seen a lot of soft remains declaring their intention to vote Leave in the last couple of days, thankfully none of them for immigration reasons, but some not for particularly solid reasons either. It highlights the issue with referendum for such decisions as some will use it to express discontent with the status quo while not being fully committed to the alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Might come down to who some folk detest most. I'll need to hold my nose while voting remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Killie Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Don't worry, rolled out next week will be a vow printed on a make believe scroll. This will solve everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Bristol Killie said: Don't worry, rolled out next week will be a vow printed on a make believe scroll. This will solve everything. difference is this time, there is no compliant media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 11 hours ago, DonnyTJS said: Taking it too far ... A complacent belief that because the big knobs leading the Leave campaign really are a huge bunch of cocks the 'silent majority' would vote against them rather than independently think that maybe the EU isn't fit for purpose? Whatever the case, there's certainly been massive complacency and, as Rossy says, it's effectively destroyed the current version of the Conservative party. It's remarkable that this outcome wasn't predicted (regardless of the result). I can't see Osbourne surviving this, and Cameron will be lucky to get passed the next Tory conference even if there's a vote to Remain. Every cloud ... Remain seem to have modelled themselves on the Better Together campaign. The difference is, Better Together started with a much stronger lead than Remain had at the start of this campaign. Although scare tactics have some traction, Better Together's lead gradually evaporated over time. The same thing appears to be happening here. If the Leave campaign wasn't equally as obnoxious as their opponents I think they would be streets ahead by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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