scotlad Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Just seen a tweet from a Labour party member in Scotland bemoaning the fact that Milliband has refused to rule out a deal with the SNP. Perhaps he was hoping he would, as going by the polls that looks like their best chance of curtailing the haemorrhaging of their support to the SNP. I think Millband is being more pragmatic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31780935 DC now asking for no lab-snp coalition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The will of the Scottish people being treated with complete disdain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) More scenarios (Lab/SNP and Lab/Con) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-2015-what-a-future-coalition-could-look-like-10092273.html Green party held talks on alliance with SNP and Plaid Cymru http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/06/green-party-talks-alliance-snp-plaid-cymru-caroline-lucas-labour-coalition And in case anyone missed it, "The terrifying prospect of the Scots ruling England is now all too real" - Max Hastings in the Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982046/The-terrifying-prospect-Scots-ruling-England-real-MAX-HASTINGS-nightmare-scenario-facing-Britain-Election.html#ixzz3Tj7hfw00 Refers to Nicola Sturgeon's 'tartan army' Concludes "a historic tragedy beckons for the UK" and the backlash will be "bitter indeed" and predicts "a storm will break". Doom indeed. But if England votes Tory and Scotland is imposed upon as usual, presumably that is not a problem. Edited March 7, 2015 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 It's funny. For two years we were told we were 'better together'; that we were one big happy family of nations with a nation with so much in common and a rich, shared history; to consider the ordinary working-class fold of insert name of some random provincial English shitehole; "Scotland, stay with us!". But as soon as it looks like we might actually have some effect on how things are run - panic stations! The United Kingdom: loves Scotland, hates the Scots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 It's funny. For two years we were told we were 'better together'; that we were one big happy family of nations with a nation with so much in common and a rich, shared history; to consider the ordinary working-class fold of insert name of some random provincial English shitehole; "Scotland, stay with us!". But as soon as it looks like we might actually have some effect on how things are run - panic stations! The United Kingdom: loves Scotland, hates the Scots. Your last sentence captures it perfectly. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Every news report and newspaper report is just wondrous. Get it right up them. How very dare we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Every news report and newspaper report is just wondrous. Get it right up them. How very dare we? Absolutely! This is a brilliant compensation for losing the referendum. I'm enjoying it. Not nearly as much as I'd have enjoyed winning, but I'm enjoying it hugely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockodile Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Ironic isn't it that the powers down south feel fear at being held to account by a bunch of MPs they never voted for. Where's the pooling and sharing resources, best of both worlds and certainty trumpeted by Better Together now eh. I wouldnt be surprised if a fair few of the 55% are now in the SNP camp as the true colours are being clearly shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Indeed , Scotland has never ever had this coverage. They are shiiting bricks. Loving it. Its the tone more than anything, patronising, condescending, arrogance, astonishment and above all their feeling of entitlement being eroded. Wonderful , fukk them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I am luvvin it , its fascinating in a way (the absolute panic) and makes me laugh , lots ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Scotland’s election result is the single factor most likely to shape the next government. No combination of parties would have the required numbers without the votes of the SNP http://www.theguardian.com/politics/datablog/2015/mar/20/general-election-lessons-scotland-political-history "Scotland was already partying. It’s just that nobody noticed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Scotland’s election result is the single factor most likely to shape the next government. No combination of parties would have the required numbers without the votes of the SNP http://www.theguardian.com/politics/datablog/2015/mar/20/general-election-lessons-scotland-political-history "Scotland was already partying. It’s just that nobody noticed" Very interesting read. Something I hadn't thought about before just clicked. If we assume (big assumption) that the polls are correct for the rest of the UK, then it doesn't seem to matter too much if the number of SNP seats has been exaggerated. If SNP don't win all those seats it will be mainly because Labour have held onto them. So, the overall numbers are the same. As long as SNP get a block of about 20 seats (much more realistic IMO) they could have just as much influence as if they got 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Nothing to be gained by falling in with the tories who would draw the red line at trident etc anyway. This election is all about destroying labour in Scotland while further eroding the relevance of Westminster to Scots. Coalition and the ensuing power rush by london labour would enable the vow to be pretty much delivered by the snp. The real goal for the snp is the Scottish Elections in 2017 and creating a political landscape to facilitate another referendum. Agreed. Exciting times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Agreed. Exciting times. Agreed? He couldn't be more wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ally Bongo Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Agreed? He couldn't be more wrong... Piss off FFS Why the fook is it not exciting ? Edited March 21, 2015 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine bibber Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Another election required scenario... hard not to see another referendum on Scottish independence .Perhaps in RUK as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Piss off FFS Why the fook is it not exciting ? 2017 Scottish elections are the most important thing for the SNP? Really?... REALLY?Edit: and I never said it wasn't exciting you mentalist. Edited March 21, 2015 by Scunnered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 2017 Scottish elections are the most important thing for the SNP? Really?... REALLY? Edit: and I never said it wasn't exciting you mentalist. That's not the way I read it,I read it as these times are about the destruction of labour not just one election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Labours probably the main thing keeping scotland in the union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis_trap Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 It is hard to imagine a scenario that the SNP couldn't work to their benefit ?Either Scotland has major influence at Westminster for the 1st time ever....OR they are locked out by an undemocratic coalition. FWIW : I don't think Scots care if David Cameron wins another term as PM.Whilst we don't like the Tories he, unlike Labour, is at least seen as safe pair of hands with the economy. Ever since the referendum it is the Labour party that are now very much the bad guys. By asking us to vote NO they turned on the very people of Scotland they apparently represent ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Labours probably the main thing keeping scotland in the union I don't think Labours decimation is being reflected in support for independence... Yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I don't think Labours decimation is being reflected in support for independence... Yet. If Scottish Labour continue on their destructive path of attacking all things SNP and giving it a "nasty separatist" tag, then the correlation will grow. It still doesn't seem to have registered with most of them that Scotland has had enough of being taken for granted by Labour, it is up to them to change the way they do things in Scotland, not to let UK Labour pull the strings of policy detail. If they can't do that, then it is definitely game over for them as regard vying for power in Scotland again in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymac Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 OR they are locked out by an undemocratic coalition. Don't get why one coalition is more undemocratic than another. Care to explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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