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  1. ^ I am not one for conspiracy theory... However better together knew they had won just from "pre-sampling" the postal votes. Since 2014 I have cancelled my postal vote and always vote in person. This video is an eye opener.
  2. In that scenario the SNP simply run next general-election on Independence mandate. Could even resign existing SNP MPs and trigger by-election at any time we wished. Lets not pretend Westminster hold all the cards / power : they don't. However before pressing the nuclear button the SNP need to be sure independence has >50% support. We are not there yet - but with brexit and Boris incoming its not far off. Patience! Timing is key - we only get one more chance in our lifetime.
  3. Disagree - legally the Scottish people are sovereign. So if as a nation we ever decide to end Act of Union then there is absolutely *nothing* Westminster can do about it. Catalonia is entirely different circumstance / historical circumstance and legal system. Of course it would complicated - what happens to 300 years worth of legislation declared void because Act Of Union 1707 is no longer valid ? Clearly s30 is preferable and less problematic - but its not the only route.
  4. ^ exactly : no one is suggesting unilateral deceleration of independence. however if Westminster keep blocking a referendum then the Scottish government simply run a holyrood or general election on mandate for independence. there are alternate paths around Westminster obfuscation. once the Scottish government have a mandate for independence then there is nothing Westminster can do about it. the sovereign people of Scotland will have spoken and claim of right means there is *nothing* Westminster could do to deny those wishes. of course first we need a clear majority in favor of Independence. there is no point SNP pushing hard on this until it looks like we have 50% backing for independence. the worst thing for Scotland would be to lose a second independence referendum - then the dream really is dead....
  5. The difference in Catalonia is that referendums are explicitly illegal under Spanish law. However there is nothing in UK law to stop Sturgeon holding consultative referendum on any topic she wishes. However the point of the "claim of right" (which remains valid to this day) is that the Scottish people are legally sovereign. So if Scots (collectively as a nation) ever decide the union is over then legally there is f--k all Westminter could do about it. To suggest that Scots need permission from Westminster to re-establish their independent status is an illusion : which the media like to perpetuate. S30 is an illusion, rather than a requirement. Westminster forced to admit the Scottish people are Sovereign http://blog.independencelive.net/westminster-forced-to-admit-the-scottish-people-are-sovereign/
  6. Section 30 is a smoke screen. Of course it is one path to independence. Politically and legally it is the easiest option. However : by historical anomaly the people of Scotland remain sovereign. Where as in England the crown (royal family) remain sovereign and lend that sovereignty to parliament. If / when Scotland decides it wants independence then there is *nothing* rUK can do about it. We simply terminate Act of Union 1707 and get on with it. The idea that rUK can keep Scotland against its will forever more (simply because they can) is brit-nat nonsense backed by compliant media. Go and read about the 'claim of right' - basically Scotlands historical and legal right to self-determination and a government of its choosing. Scotland only remains in UK for as long as we wish that to be the case.
  7. True - plus if the Chinese supply the smartphones then America / UK cant spy on their own citizens 😉
  8. ^ Baws. The ERG / DUP also voted against Mays deal - all be it for different reasons : however they still blocked it. Brexiters supposedly wanted to 'take back control'. Now they complain about Parliament exercising that exact sovereignty during the Brexit process. You can't have it both ways. I will ask again : you think Brexit is going well ?
  9. Errrr naw : whilst I believe in Scottish independence plenty of REMAIN voting Brits have been equally shafted by a botched brexit. Are you pleased with the way it is going ?
  10. ^ Only if you don't understand the difference / benefits between EU membership and being an independent nation. Joining the EU is a perfectly sensible thing for independent European nations to do. Pool a little sovereignty in return for access to worlds largest single market. The argument about brexit making you an independent country is smoke-screen. Outside of EU you simply compromise in relationship with nearest neighbors in different ways (unless becoming North Korea is the goal ?) Whilst part of the UK it is fair to say Scotland has zero sovereignty.
  11. I think Clarke is a great appointment. Knows Scottish game and how to motivate limited ability players. Foreign manager may struggle with both those aspects (i.e Berti).
  12. Sturgeon cant really here win. If she defended Salmond the media / brit-nats would rightly call cover up.
  13. ^ that to me reads that the media cant report what he has been arrested for (under contempt of court act)
  14. Arrested and charged with what ? Media seemingly cant report any details - but rumors it is for contempt of court. Ironic given Daily Record already published full details.
  15. There is also a legal argument that the people of Scotland are legally sovereign. However in England historical anomaly means that in England it is the crown (queen) who is sovereign and lends her powers to Westminster. S30 order granted from Westminster is the easiest and least controversial way to amicably hold a referendum in Scotland. However (unlike Catalonia) holding a consultative referendum on any topic not illegal. If Scotland wants its independence we will get it. Lets not believe the lie we have to wait until *they* let us free.
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