Texas Pete Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Are people actually arguing about whether Gilmour should go out on loan or not? If Gilmour properly breaks into the Chelsea first team and keeps his place there is absolutely no need for him to go out on loan. If he doesn’t get another start and goes back to the under 23s or warms the bench for the full squad then a loan might be a good idea. It’s not complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Playing on the left side of midfield , thought he was a right sided player. Barely touched the ball. Alaves been completely outplayed. Have to say Martin Odegaard is going to be a great player and live up to the hype, he produced amazing assist for first goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said: Barely touched the ball. Alaves been completely outplayed. Have to say Martin Odegaard is going to be a great player and live up to the hype, he produced amazing assist for first goal. Funny that I was just checking his stats before I looked here. Only person who has touched the ball less than him is the Sociedad keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Name some Every good player who’s came through in England for the last 10-20 years basically. You must be having a laugh 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Every good player who’s came through in England for the last 10-20 years basically. You must be having a laugh 😂 Wouldn't go that far but I stand corrected. Am a bit surprised how many have.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Texas Pete said: Are people actually arguing about whether Gilmour should go out on loan or not? If Gilmour properly breaks into the Chelsea first team and keeps his place there is absolutely no need for him to go out on loan. If he doesn’t get another start and goes back to the under 23s or warms the bench for the full squad then a loan might be a good idea. It’s not complicated. Your right it isn't complicated, the key word is if, let's wait until he actually properly becomes a first team regular before we have this discussion because atm he isnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMM82 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) For anyone interested, Scotland u18s have been playing in a development tournament in Turkey, where they played against top opposition from Africa and South America. We beat Cameroon, who won the Youth African Cup of Nations, 2-0. And today we won 2-1 against Paraguay. Paraguay came third place in the South American Youth Championships. Kai Kennedy of Rangers scored a double in that game. Scotland weren’t full strength either. Edited September 26, 2019 by SWMM82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, SWMM82 said: For anyone interested, Scotland u18s have been playing in a development tournament in Turkey, where they played against top opposition from Africa and South America. We beat Cameroon, who won the Youth African Cup of Nations, 2-0. And today we won 2-1 against Paraguay. Paraguay came third place in the South American Youth Championships. Kai Kennedy of Rangers scored a double in that game. Scotland weren’t full strength either. Better get rid of those performances schools. They’re clearly not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I think all 3 sides are going to the Youth World Cup as well. Things have improved at youth level for Scotland massively, we now compete brilliantly with top nations at u19s and below. We just need to try and translate that to the U21s and then hopefully the Full Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, bazmidd said: I think all 3 sides are going to the Youth World Cup as well. Things have improved at youth level for Scotland massively, we now compete brilliantly with top nations at u19s and below. We just need to try and translate that to the U21s and then hopefully the Full Team. Won't happen as their paths to regular first-team fitba will continue to be blocked by foreign p*sh and third-rate English journeymen. Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Aye I agree mate, had my opinions on this on other threads. The Scottish League should be a breeding ground for Scottish talent not a jolly for second rate foreigners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 8 hours ago, daviebee said: Won't happen as their paths to regular first-team fitba will continue to be blocked by foreign p*sh and third-rate English journeymen. Sadly. That’s what used to happen when our players weren’t good enough. I don’t think it will happen with players who are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMM82 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: That’s what used to happen when our players weren’t good enough. I don’t think it will happen with players who are. Bringing in foreigners and journeymen hasn’t exactly improved the quality of our league i would argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2019/09/26/watch-all-billy-gilmour-s-touches-from--fantastic--display-in-ch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 14 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: How did he play? He took a gamble going to Italy but will be interesting to see how he looks here. Well off the pace. Subbed after 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 58 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: That’s what used to happen when our players weren’t good enough. I don’t think it will happen with players who are. That’s what happens right now. Hearts are a perfect example; 2 seasons ago a young team and a lot of positivity, all young Scots and a lot of exciting players. In come 15 non Scots and they are all booted out and the excitement is zapped and they are a complete pants outfit with a ring piece for a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ProudScot said: That’s what happens right now. Hearts are a perfect example; 2 seasons ago a young team and a lot of positivity, all young Scots and a lot of exciting players. In come 15 non Scots and they are all booted out and the excitement is zapped and they are a complete pants outfit with a ring piece for a manager. Cochrane is on loan and will be a star for Hearts unless he goes direct to EPL. Macdonald on loan and Hickey in the team. You know full well these boys are very young to be grinding out points. Edited September 27, 2019 by er yir macaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 4 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Cochrane is on loan and will be a star for Hearts unless he goes direct to EPL. Macdonald on loan and Hickey in the team. You know full well these boys are very young to be grinding out points. They seemed to manage that season they were doing much better than this season with all the journeymen and foreigners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Cochrane is on loan and will be a star for Hearts unless he goes direct to EPL. Macdonald on loan and Hickey in the team. You know full well these boys are very young to be grinding out points. And Morrison, Brandon and Irving are playing some part in most games. Hearts also have Halkett, Berra, Souttar, Naismith, Walker and MacLean so not all non-Scots. That said, last season was a disappointment but it's looking better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2019/09/26/watch-all-billy-gilmour-s-touches-from--fantastic--display-in-ch Class! plays like David Silva! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: And Morrison, Brandon and Irving are playing some part in most games. Hearts also have Halkett, Berra, Souttar, Naismith, Walker and MacLean so not all non-Scots. That said, last season was a disappointment but it's looking better. last five games Hearts have started 4 Scottish players twice 5 once and 6 in the other two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 8 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Cochrane is on loan and will be a star for Hearts unless he goes direct to EPL. Macdonald on loan and Hickey in the team. You know full well these boys are very young to be grinding out points. Cochrane's on loan to Dunfermiline and has played how much? If you think he is going straight to the EPL you are living on another planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 9 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Well off the pace. Subbed after 60. Barely played a minute in Italy. Chance to find out how a bench player for a very poor Serie B looks in Scotland still young though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ceudmilefailte said: Cochrane's on loan to Dunfermiline and has played how much? If you think he is going straight to the EPL you are living on another planet He’s a fantastic talent. I’m not sure if stats quantify first touch and manoeuvring out of trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ceudmilefailte said: Cochrane's on loan to Dunfermiline and has played how much? If you think he is going straight to the EPL you are living on another planet He’s a fantastic talent. I’m not sure if stats quantify first touch and manoeuvring out of trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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