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Completely agree... One player who disappointingly has stalled though is McCrorie. He isn't going to make it at the highest level as a holding Midfielder, he really needs to focus on Centre Half where he has a better chance of reaching a higher level tbh.

Tbh the group that will be 21s next year, the likes of Johnston, Hornby, Porteous and Middleton were Gemmills first group he had at U17s and they seem to have all come through the age groups together. They are all around 19 so here's hoping the next U21 campaign goes better and adding the likes of Gilmour, Cochrane and hopefully a few others to the group And just to add... England are probably the best in the world at that level right now so I wouldn't be too disheartened by tonight. A few of those players will go on to be world class

This has been a strange campaign in that the players in the squad have slowly changed over the course. A few of the earlier games that you mentioned we didn't play well. Andorra away was horrible. But since Mikey Johnston, Fraser Hornby and Billy Gilmour were introduced at Toulon tournament they have slowly started to play the same way these guys have been playing for the U19s. The performances have been much better. It is a big miss being without Johnston and Hornby tonight and will also be interesting to see how Gilmour does up against an older more experienced England midfield.

Bottling it? We are Scotland, we don't have a divine right to win every game, and when we don't win a game it doesn't automatically mean we bottled it. Ukraine are a good team, like Holland are a good team and we are a good team. Anyone of those 3 could have finished Second in that group, we are all much the same and all had differing results over the course of qualifying. On the night Ukraine were marginally better and got a couple of breaks. We never bottled that game, we were never overwhelming favourites in the first place. England will be favourites in this game as they are by far the best team in the group.

We better just hope Cairney is as good a Midfielder as he's being touted as down south because our Midfield is really not that great at keeping the ball. The days of Ferguson and Fletcher at his best were taken for granted it seems now. I'd go with McGregor Tierney. McKenna. Mulgrew. Robertson McGinn. Cairney Fraser. Armstrong. McGregor Griffiths

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/10-fastest-players-premier-league-11120341

Have a quick Google search for fastest in the Premier League last season mate.... He was 5th. And that was taken over a whole season.

Ryan Fraser is one of the fastest players in the Premier League he once actually outpaced Hector Bellerin who was officially the fastest at the time. It literally only takes a quick Google search to find this information out

This whole chat we are having now about different formations and systems all stems from how we bring our players through and the way we teach them to play football. We really shouldn't even be having this argument as everyone should know the way Scotland play our style and formations. At the present time this is evident only in our youth sides who have been completely revamped and taught to play in a certain style and to play in a certain way. They don't change for anyone. Against Spain, England, France, Holland whoever it is 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. They pass the ball the play on the front foot, they are in the faces of the opposition. We are trying to introduce our style through our youth teams now playing in this way. Formations aren't even discussed at youth level, they just know it will be 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 and they know exactly what their job is and how they are expected to play. So with this style and identity being introduced in our youth sides, it is absolutely criminal the senior side are doing the complete opposite. What the hell are these young players we are teaching to do one thing meant to think when they do excellent things playing this way at youth level, taught for years this is now the Scotland Way, only to come into the seniors and everything is arse for tit, and the manager at the top doesn't even have a scooby doo what formation or system he's playing. Spain have a style, Holland have a Style Germany have a Style, Croatia have a style, why the hell do we change what our youth sides do when we get to senior level! It shouldn't even be a discussion. Okay all formations can be tweaked etc but to completely deviate away from the way we are teaching our youth sides to play football is just insane especially when right now we have a team with 5 or 6 U21 players who could potentially start for the national team. We have to trust in the style and systems we have introduced at youth level and implement them at seniors or what is the point in any of the structure we have built up in recent years at youth level. Things have improved massively from U17s to U21s it is actually great watching these Scotland sides play. Ok we don't win every game but you know what you are going to get. They try and attack, play the right way play with heart. We are teaching these guys these things so they will in turn play that way for Scotland in future. So keep the seniors completely in line with what they are doing at youth level and trust in what we are doing or nothing will ever change for the better

So is Johnston but Middleton or Morgan will come in

Btw Fraser seems to pull out the majority of squads he is called in to! It is getting a bit ridiculous now, seems to be going back to the old days of call offs for bugger all!

You could argue that but then that would not explain why he then had him taken off at half time. He struggled against West Ham last week in a back 3 albeit he was still probably the best of the 3 that day. He struggled again though when moved into a back four yesterday. Although more experienced defenders Bailly and Smalling were equally as bad if not worse, especially Bailly. I just fear for his confidence after that. He must have been buzzing to get a start in Midfield and then he is sacrificed when others basically f*** up

Yeah mate, shocking management from Mourinho regarding McTominay. He's thrown him to the wolves putting him at centre half and then hauling him off at half time. He actually started the game pretty well in Midfield and was looking far better than Matic who's performance was absolutely dreadful. Very unfair on McTominay and now being made some sort of scapegoat by the fans. He actually looks a good player in Midfield as well. Hope his confidence isn't shot after this

He actually started in Midfield..... Until Bailly got hauled off for being absolutely atrocious and McTominay got shunted back to Centre Half.

Griffith's is also on form