SkyBlueScot Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 Don't understand the anger towards Tierney. He's still young and not really been looked after particularly well. What's wrong with him being gradually brought back so he can come back to full fitness for Arsenal and Scotland's sake? After these two games, which are nothing games anyway, he'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: Don't understand the anger towards Tierney. He's still young and not really been looked after particularly well. What's wrong with him being gradually brought back so he can come back to full fitness for Arsenal and Scotland's sake? After these two games, which are nothing games anyway, he'll be back. I agree. Allow him to get back to his best for his club in the next few months and at his peak for the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsparky Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Tierney looks half fit. He has basically jogged through this game, and still looked class. I've no issues with him missing our next two games to allow him to get up to full speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, mccaughey85 said: Good to see Tierney doing well, going to have to find a way to fit Robertson and Tierney in the team. Maybe Tierney at left wing and Fraser at right would be an option. We've never lost when Tierney's played right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, dandydunn said: Tierney and arsenal need to be told to fuck off. Either he’s fit enough to be assessed by the national doctors or he’s not. Get him to fuck and never invite him back. Wheres the popcorn emoji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: Don't understand the anger towards Tierney. He's still young and not really been looked after particularly well. What's wrong with him being gradually brought back so he can come back to full fitness for Arsenal and Scotland's sake? After these two games, which are nothing games anyway, he'll be back. He's got an Irish sounding name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Toepoke said: We've never lost when Tierney's played right back. Yeh I would happy play Tierney at right back but no one else seems keen on that idea. He played well enough when he was put there for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Yeh I would happy play Tierney at right back but no one else seems keen on that idea. He played well enough when he was put there for Scotland. Lot's of people are keen, unless it's just been you saying it an awful lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 51 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: Don't understand the anger towards Tierney. He's still young and not really been looked after particularly well. What's wrong with him being gradually brought back so he can come back to full fitness for Arsenal and Scotland's sake? After these two games, which are nothing games anyway, he'll be back. Surely allowing his club to dictate when he can and can’t travel says it all really. He could’ve easily travelled to be assessed by the medics and I’m sure they would’ve passed him unfit for playing football. He’s picking and choosing where and when he wants to be selected, so fuck him. Playing for your country is a privilege, not a chore, something he clearly doesn’t realise. Just let him be billy big bollocks and pretend he’s injured. Cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Ach not ideal but lets just let him get a few games under his belt with arsenal then get him in for the November games, then build some momentum for the play off. Let's remember he's not had a proper pre-season so he'll be at higher risk of another injury with other players way ahead in terms of match fitness. A game against those let's be honest, excellent Russians will be another level than the dross he's played so far for arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohan Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, dandydunn said: Surely allowing his club to dictate when he can and can’t travel says it all really. He could’ve easily travelled to be assessed by the medics and I’m sure they would’ve passed him unfit for playing football. He’s picking and choosing where and when he wants to be selected, so fuck him. Playing for your country is a privilege, not a chore, something he clearly doesn’t realise. Just let him be billy big bollocks and pretend he’s injured. Cunt Sometimes/most times going to watch scotland is a chore and not a privilege Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicktokick Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Tweet from Henry Winter of the Times. Jock Stein once played with a team that had 4 centre halfs playing, maybe we could do something similar with left backs. (Stein's team lost to Wales 2-0, it was rubbish) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Think we have got to be relaxed about Arsenal’s decision this time around but not for the November matches. Clarke’s has got to know his best team for the pay offs (not best 11 players) by end of November. If Clarke has devised a system and Tierney hasn’t been part of that ( in matches and training ) then it will be hard to justify his inclusion come March. He should be there and if it takes more “fitness building” and missing two relatively inconsequential matches now then that’s the way to go. Some cracking crosses tonight by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Some people on here not satisfied with constantly tearing into the less able players we have, so now they are shitting all over the genuinely brilliant ones? Fuckin. Geez. A. Break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 11 hours ago, dandydunn said: Surely allowing his club to dictate when he can and can’t travel says it all really. He could’ve easily travelled to be assessed by the medics and I’m sure they would’ve passed him unfit for playing football. He’s picking and choosing where and when he wants to be selected, so fuck him. Playing for your country is a privilege, not a chore, something he clearly doesn’t realise. Just let him be billy big bollocks and pretend he’s injured. Cunt Od rather he got back to 100% fitness for play offs than playing two dead rubbwrs half fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Od rather he got back to 100% fitness for play offs than playing two dead rubbwrs half fit. They are not dead rubbers. Treating these games like dead rubbers is a big problem in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyDD Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I'm conflicted on the Tierney situation. His last couple of years have been so stop start that even on a human level you want to see the guy get to the stage where he can play without any more niggling issues cropping up every few months or so. You don't want the guy to have barely kicked a ball come March because hhe has taken on too much too soon in these stages of his return from injury. The lack of a proper pre-season is a big part here. That being said, whilst we want him to be in full and fine fettle come March, we don't want that to be the first time he has worked with Clarke on worked in the set up, both in training session, tactical discussions and coaching sessions and games. These games are not dead rubbers, as mentioned above. These games are crucial chances for Clarke to work on hat he wants. The ideal situation would be no injuries, full availability and Clarke being able to work off and onfield with the players to get them all settled and comfortable and assured in their roles. That's not realistic, but you want as much time as possible for as many of the players as possible. On that basis alone it might have been good to get Tierney in without actually playing him, or playing him only against San Marino where I can't imagine him being over extended, having to go into high gear or really being at risk. But ultimately, I think it's acceptable enough, given the historical injury issues and the struggle to stay fit when he did make a few appearances for celtic previously, only to exacerbate things and end up back in treatment and back out the game, to leave him out for these two. It will definitely be a problem if he ends up missing out in November. Clarke needs to get some work done with him then if he is to be part of the 11 come March, to maximise our chances. Jack's injury last night; expected to be serious enough that he pulls out, or expected to shake it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, AndyDD said: I'm conflicted on the Tierney situation. His last couple of years have been so stop start that even on a human level you want to see the guy get to the stage where he can play without any more niggling issues cropping up every few months or so. You don't want the guy to have barely kicked a ball come March because hhe has taken on too much too soon in these stages of his return from injury. The lack of a proper pre-season is a big part here. That being said, whilst we want him to be in full and fine fettle come March, we don't want that to be the first time he has worked with Clarke on worked in the set up, both in training session, tactical discussions and coaching sessions and games. These games are not dead rubbers, as mentioned above. These games are crucial chances for Clarke to work on hat he wants. The ideal situation would be no injuries, full availability and Clarke being able to work off and onfield with the players to get them all settled and comfortable and assured in their roles. That's not realistic, but you want as much time as possible for as many of the players as possible. On that basis alone it might have been good to get Tierney in without actually playing him, or playing him only against San Marino where I can't imagine him being over extended, having to go into high gear or really being at risk. But ultimately, I think it's acceptable enough, given the historical injury issues and the struggle to stay fit when he did make a few appearances for celtic previously, only to exacerbate things and end up back in treatment and back out the game, to leave him out for these two. It will definitely be a problem if he ends up missing out in November. Clarke needs to get some work done with him then if he is to be part of the 11 come March, to maximise our chances. Jack's injury last night; expected to be serious enough that he pulls out, or expected to shake it off? I think Clarke has done the right thing. Russia away would be a big step up from the 2 matches he's played with Arsenal. He won't be needed for San Marino. Cyprus away and Kazakhstan at home in November are ideal for getting him back in, and preparing for the matches in March. The big challenge for Clarke is finding a way to play that gets as many of our best players on the pitch without losing the balance a team needs. If you wrote a list of the best Scottish eleven players it would be all left-backs and midfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Matt Kennedy switching allegiances to NI. No loss to us, but it shows how much other countries that qualify for tournaments are scraping the bottom of the barrel. On paper, we actually have a very competent squad. Think about it. If we were playing a team whose first 11 had players from Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, and a few others from EPL, and 1 from La Liga, we'd be shitting ourselves. That gives us a massive psychological advantage over many other nations. We just need to marry it up with performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusmac Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 10:16 PM, dandydunn said: Surely allowing his club to dictate when he can and can’t travel says it all really. He could’ve easily travelled to be assessed by the medics and I’m sure they would’ve passed him unfit for playing football. He’s picking and choosing where and when he wants to be selected, so fuck him. Playing for your country is a privilege, not a chore, something he clearly doesn’t realise. Just let him be billy big bollocks and pretend he’s injured. Cunt Post of the week. Surely.🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 Archie Mair on the bench for Norwich. No sign of Hanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Is Liam Kelly QPR's no 1 now? He starts again. Also see that Lindsay has been dropped by Stoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 See Matt Phillips starting for West Brom again . Handling his injury well I see ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Is Liam Kelly QPR's no 1 now? He starts again. Also see that Lindsay has been dropped by Stoke Just about to ask the same thing about Kelly. Pity this run of games didn't start a few weeks earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, noctonjock said: See Matt Phillips starting for West Brom again . Handling his injury well I see ? Did he pull out of the squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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