Ruth Davidson

[Larky Masher]

8 hours ago, Ormond said:

Nah. It’d be like pulling apart ain o’ they Ginsters pork pies you can get fae a BP garage. Complete wae big thick jeely chunks through it.

Are you an incel?

[Boynze]

2 hours ago, PapofGlencoe said:

i'm not sure i agree with it either though you'd be made out to be nick grifffen if you said it publicly.

are there not enough young children needing a home, from desperate circumstances, without people creating babies they can't conceive naturally?  it's a moral question worth a reasonable answer.  not black and white on it.  i just i don't like the youre either totally for it or youre a nazi attitude.  

i think it's less so of an issue for me when it's two women.  the reporting of Tom daley having a baby thing i find weird.  all about the couple getting their baby, larely zero about the women making it for them.  it's illegal in most European countries.  I think i'm with them on this one.  Also if Dustin black had been sniffing about a women at that age, he'd be called a creep.

the same criticism could equally be levelled at any straight couple who have conceived naturally.

there are plenty of children needing a home that any couple is free look at adopting or fostering.

[Bino's]

15 minutes ago, Boynze said:

the same criticism could equally be levelled at any straight couple who have conceived naturally.

there are plenty of children needing a home that any couple is free look at adopting or fostering.

I would rather Ruth Davidson had an engineered sprog than some car crash junkie bring a kid into their chaotic world

[PapofGlencoe]

1 hour ago, Boynze said:

the same criticism could equally be levelled at any straight couple who have conceived naturally.

there are plenty of children needing a home that any couple is free look at adopting or fostering.

Yes,  I know.  I think it's a tough enough moral argument when couples who can't conceive due to a biological problem before adding in couple's who we are bending reality to suit.  Let's be clear here this is not their baby - it's biologically impossible.  So yes i'm prepared to say it.  I don't think, no matter what your life is, creating children is a right.  If it means services to straight people are rationed as a result of this, I am not in favour either.  Again, plenty children needing a home and Ruth Davidson and her partner would make great parents to them, im sure.  That's not the argument.

But if we are going down that route, then yes i'll say it.  I think straight people have more of a right than homosexual couples to bear children.  Sorry if it offends.

Edited April 27, 2018 by PapofGlencoe

[PapofGlencoe]

53 minutes ago, Bino's said:

I would rather Ruth Davidson had an engineered sprog than some car crash junkie bring a kid into their chaotic world

might be an idea for Ruth to take that poor kid then.

[aaid]

32 minutes ago, PapofGlencoe said:

Yes,  I know.  I think it's a tough enough moral argument when couples who can't conceive due to a biological problem before adding in couple's who we are bending reality to suit.  Let's be clear here this is not their baby - it's biologically impossible.  So yes i'm prepared to say it.  I don't think, no matter what your life is, creating children is a right.  If it means services to straight people are rationed as a result of this, I am not in favour either.  Again, plenty children needing a home and Ruth Davidson and her partner would make great parents to them, im sure.  That's not the argument.

But if we are going down that route, then yes i'll say it.  I think straight people have more of a right than homosexual couples to bear children.  Sorry if it offends.

You seem a bit confused.  First you say no-one has a right to have kids but then say a straight couple have more of a right.

You can't believe both things.

[PapofGlencoe]

5 minutes ago, aaid said:

You seem a bit confused.  First you say no-one has a right to have kids but then say a straight couple have more of a right.

You can't believe both things.

unlike people on this board I don't profess to know everything. "I am not sure" was the first thing i said in this thread. I am not black and white  on it.  You could charactarise it as confused, if you wish.  So be it.

my on balance view is having a child is not a right in itself.  and on balance, if the world deems it is, i sort of go along with it.  If it is, then yes I think couples with the biological ability to procreate have more of a right to procreate.

Edited April 27, 2018 by PapofGlencoe

[Alan]

21 hours ago, kumnio said:

Spot on.

Already feel sorry for the kid, imagine being brought up a mini Alan.

I'm the donor.

[exile]

Isn't breeding irrelevant to politics; it's only monarchism that insists on sex as part of the job description for making heirs.

Anyway being such a major public figure presumably must make life just a little easier for other 'ordinary citizens' in her circumstances.

And for those who oppose her, a little more hope she might retire early to "spend more time with the family"?

[Jim Beem]

I heard Mundell was ordered to jizz in the turkey baster to ensure it’s tory purity. 

[Ormond]

33 minutes ago, Jim Beem said:

I heard Mundell was ordered to jizz in the turkey baster to ensure it’s tory purity. 

He needs to save his jizz for the weekends pumping it up his rent boys.

[Alibi]

15 hours ago, Alan said:

I'm the donor.

We've been saying for years that you're a wanker.. 

[DoonTheSlope]

So did they use one of her wife’s eggs to plant inside her then fired someones muck up her that had been donated?

If not then what legal right has the mum got, not the mum but the mum mum. If they fall out and both want custody what rights has she got?

[TDYER63]

On 4/26/2018 at 10:48 PM, aaid said:

I don't know, I think it's a pretty big story - for today at least -.first high profile politician in a same sex relationship to be pregnant, I'd say that's certainly newsworthy.   If we start getting the Royal Baby treatment then that would be overkill.

Would Kezia Dugdale have got the same coverage, who knows, but I suspect most people complaining are more focuses on who it is rather than the story itself. 

I agree that the people complaining are focusing on who it is rather than the story. But I think that is the point. 

Were we currently living in the same political climate that we were prior to Indyref, do you honestly think the leader of the conservative party in Scotland having a baby would be given almost 5 mins of top headline news in Scotland and ‘breaking news’ in the Uk, and splattered across front page of most papers? 

Artificial insemination is not new. Same sex relationships having children is not new . Why should a politician , any politician, be so important ? 

[Eisegerwind]

On 04/26/2018 at 6:03 PM, DoonTheSlope said:

It’d be like opening up a cheese toasty

What! Warm and moist.A lot of fanny fear on this thread.

 

[DoonTheSlope]

11 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said:

What! Warm and moist.A lot of fanny fear on this thread.

 

My mistake. I should have said cheese and tuna toasty

Theres only two things in the world that smell like fish and one of them is fish....

[Eisegerwind]

22 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said:

My mistake. I should have said cheese and tuna toasty

Theres only two things in the world that smell like fish and one of them is fish....

Aye OK. Since a large part of Ruth's and Jan's sexual  relationship is based around oral sex I'd guess their fannies are in tip top condition.

Edited April 28, 2018 by Eisegerwind

[Dave78]

10 hours ago, TDYER63 said:

I agree that the people complaining are focusing on who it is rather than the story. But I think that is the point. 

Were we currently living in the same political climate that we were prior to Indyref, do you honestly think the leader of the conservative party in Scotland having a baby would be given almost 5 mins of top headline news in Scotland and ‘breaking news’ in the Uk, and splattered across front page of most papers? 

Artificial insemination is not new. Same sex relationships having children is not new . Why should a politician , any politician, be so important ? 

Because she's the first political leader to do this, no?

As much as i detest Ruthie, this is a big story.

And as for the suspicion that the BBC are trying to help out the Tories, how do you think this story resonates with the traditional Tory base voters? Not well, i'd imagine.

[Eisegerwind]

On 4/26/2018 at 7:46 PM, Ally Bongo said:

It was the lead item on Reporting Scotland - got 4 minutes and 15 seconds

More important than Brexit power grab

More important than FM questions at Holyrood

More important than saving Bifab just over 2 weeks ago which was the third story that night and got 3 mins 50 secs

From G A Ponsonby on twatter

And watch the news............ boom, hit the stopwatch, boom, stop the stopwatch. Have a think about it. Really need to find a better way to occupy my time.

[Mindimoo]

Oh, how I'm loving this new and non judgemental TAMB 

[Toepoke]

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 9:04 PM, kumnio said:

 imagine being brought up a mini Alan.

There's only one Alan Davidson...

 

[TDYER63]

12 hours ago, Dave78 said:

Because she's the first political leader to do this, no?

As much as i detest Ruthie, this is a big story.

And as for the suspicion that the BBC are trying to help out the Tories, how do you think this story resonates with the traditional Tory base voters? Not well, i'd imagine.

I know that it is because she is the first political leader to do this, I just dont think the story is as big as has been made out.

I must just have a different idea of what is newsworthy and what is not , and of the importance of politicians in the world of conception. I dont have much of an interest in their personal life so long as it doesnt interfere with how they do their job.

I wasnt pointing the finger specifically at the BBC , it was more the general media frenzy. I agree this will not go down well with more traditional Tories but IMO  the media showing how fantastic the news is is unlikely to do much harm. 

I admit I may be over analysing things as I do not like Ruth Davidson or the Tories but I genuinely do not think I would feel any different about the newsworthiness of the story had it been a politician I like.

I had better start reading Hello magazine and  getting my nails done 🙂

[Larky Masher]

10 hours ago, Mindimoo said:

Oh, how I'm loving this new and non judgemental TAMB 

Some of the misogynistic comments on this thread have been ridiculous.

[aaid]

1 hour ago, Larky Masher said:

Some of the misogynistic comments on this thread have been ridiculous.

Not to mention the homophobic ones as well

[Ally Bongo]

1 hour ago, Larky Masher said:

Some of the misogynistic comments on this thread have been ridiculous.

 

2 minutes ago, aaid said:

Not to mention the homophobic ones as well

 

I'm glad i held back on mentioning the possibility of strap-ons ....