Ally Bongo Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Why is hard for some to accept the a strand of Islam have followers who are homicidal maniacs. This is not a racist statement. Its a fact. Of course I should balance it up by saying that all religions have their cold blood murderers but who kill in the name of religion. However I don't get why people merely stating the truth are shouted down on here. Yes - im still awaiting the board's new expert Mox's reasons for calling me an idiot for highlighting to Phart who i was referring to when i used the word extremists Edited November 15, 2015 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 However I don't get why people merely stating the truth are shouted down on here. Rangers are dead. They ceased to exist in 2012. They are no more. Their history vacated the premises along with their demise. I do not expect to be shouted down for merely stating the truth.....................................but I realise that may be a fanciful expectation in this instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 You are weird if you carried it around everywhere. Just plain weird. I have both my passports in my work bag all the time - travel so much i don't bother taking them out - just habit - vice versa - i get moaned at in Angola for not carrying my PP with the visa in it, cos some of the guys in past been taken to jail or fined for not carrying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Why is hard for some to accept the a strand of Islam have followers who are homicidal maniacs. This is not a racist statement. Its a fact. Of course I should balance it up by saying that all religions have their cold blood murderers but who kill in the name of religion. However I don't get why people merely stating the truth are shouted down on here. There are strands of Christianity that are extremist and advocate killing and persecuting people for believing different things. The KKK frames itself in religious terms. Should all Christians be subject to checks they aren't KKK every time they cross a border? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louch Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Folk take passports out all the time for id if they don't have a drivers license Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Spain as well, i got stopped in Madrid by undercover police a few times with folk asking for ID.It's true that you need it but it's extremely rare to get asked. You're either very unlucky or have one of those 'familiar' kind of faces. I don't mean a criminal face (although the joke would have been easy...).EDIT: or you're black Edited November 15, 2015 by thewelk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) In some countries it is a legal requirement to have ID on your person at all times. Belgium for starters. This applies in most European countries. I have to have photo ID with me all the time in The Netherlands. It seems really weird though that all these nutters would carry a passport with them, and weird that all the passports apparently survived the bombs. We should make planes out of the stuff that passports are made of, then they'd be indestructible. Edited November 15, 2015 by Rossy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 You are clearly trying to look clever so i wont encourage you by giving an answer to such a ludicrous question However it would be interesting to hear your views on how we proceed Appeasement ? Clearly turning the clock back and not entering illegal wars is not an option How do we solve where we are now ? Are we discussing the subject or discussing the straw-man that is "me trying to be X" The question is legitimate and the answer attempts to imply it isn't asked in good faith but merely as some sort of vanity project. First thing we need to do is get more information. then proceed, not, suddenly dawn raiding and parachuting British Citizens into ISIS held land, you're sounding hysterical. I'll think about it a couple of more days and then answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Why is hard for some to accept the a strand of Islam have followers who are homicidal maniacs. This is not a racist statement. Its a fact. Of course I should balance it up by saying that all religions have their cold blood murderers but who kill in the name of religion. However I don't get why people merely stating the truth are shouted down on here. No idea, the whole middle-east is full of them at the moment. Acting on thought crimes is a bit of cognitive red-line for me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 It's true that you need it but it's extremely rare to get asked. You're either very unlucky or have one of those 'familiar' kind of faces. I don't mean a criminal face (although the joke would have been easy...). EDIT: or you're black Nah, it was me and my Icelandic mate he was showing me some of the Turkish/Arabic places with all the Hookah's places. So probably thought we were down buying cannabis. I do get stopped when i travel a lot though. Everytime basically. So maybe i look guilty or a nutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mee Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Channel 4 news live reporting just had everyone running away from another suspected shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 The question is legitimate and the answer attempts to imply it isn't asked in good faith but merely as some sort of vanity project. It depends then by what you mean by thought crimes Preaching hate is not a thought crime Standing on the streets with a placard saying behead all infidels/we are coming and the like is not a thought crime Plotting to carry out terrorist attacks is not a thought crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRBear Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 More shootings in Paris this evening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) BBC saying that a large crowd at Place de La Republique were spooked by rumours on social media of another shooting - which weren't true. Edited November 15, 2015 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRBear Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Yeah thankfully seems to be a hoax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I think at the moment, even if you popped a crisp packet at republique you'd have it cleared. And sky would report it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Nah, it was me and my Icelandic mate he was showing me some of the Turkish/Arabic places with all the Hookah's places. Make sure you remember and tell Debian where it was. It'll save him starting a thread next time he's going over their ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 It depends then by what you mean by thought crimes Preaching hate is not a thought crime Standing on the streets with a placard saying behead all infidels/we are coming and the like is not a thought crime Plotting to carry out terrorist attacks is not a thought crime Indeed those are crimes and we already have avenues to deal with them. You're wanting to have a tier judicial system in which british citizens who preach hate are treated differently based on their religion. I'm not sure that is wise. That's merely my point, as can be seen if look previously in the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peever1745 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Why weird? In a lot of countries, being able to show ID (either passport or id card), is compulsory. Policeman--- Hay you wearing the suicide belt where is your id? Bomber--- Ah officer I have my passport here,will that do? Policeman---Yes that will do nicely,on you go sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Can I just confirm that Kay Burley is still a khunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Policeman--- Hay you wearing the suicide belt where is your id? Bomber--- Ah officer I have my passport here,will that do? Policeman---Yes that will do nicely,on you go sir. It does seem strange at first glance, but do you need to carry ID in Paris? If so, maybe these guys were carrying passports for that very reason, so that if they were stopped, they could produce their ID and be on their way to their targets with minimum fuss. Why risk the plan being scuppered for the sake of carrying a passport? Edited November 15, 2015 by redstevie007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 The false alarm was some neds setting off bangers. No doubt looking for a YouTube hit. Went out for a walk today around the notre dame area. Everything felt normal (despite the large number of TV vans and police...) so when I watch sky news now hearing about that 'city on edge', 'floods of tears', 'nervousness in the air' I can't relate to it at all. These c**ts want people to terrified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mee Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Can I just confirm that Kay Burley is still a khunt. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3319270/Sky-News-presenter-Kay-Burley-mocked-tweeting-picture-dog-Paris-caption-sadness-eyes.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Can some one confirm if passports are all unique to individual country's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3319270/Sky-News-presenter-Kay-Burley-mocked-tweeting-picture-dog-Paris-caption-sadness-eyes.html What a fuqqin cretin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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