Charlie Endell Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Yup religion is not the cause only the excuse. Do folk still believe the troubles in northern Ireland was purely Catholics against prodistants or was it really about gangsters using religion to gain powerThe conflict in Northern Ireland has always been ethno-political rather than religious - religion is just thrown into the mix to spice things up further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusseldorf mark Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 http://www.wsj.com/articles/attacker-tried-to-enter-paris-stadium-but-was-turned-away-1447520571?alg=y story now saying at least one of the Stade de France bombers had a ticket and was stopped at the gate after being frisked, could have been very nasty inside the ground on live tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) http://www.wsj.com/articles/attacker-tried-to-enter-paris-stadium-but-was-turned-away-1447520571?alg=y story now saying at least one of the Stade de France bombers had a ticket and was stopped at the gate after being frisked, could have been very nasty inside the ground on live tv could result in airport style checks before major events? Edited November 14, 2015 by Robroysboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Nobody, even the most pious, rushes to make thread about the latest atrocity in beirut because they couldn't care enough to do it but will all rush to comment with mock indignation when folk write anything about another that happens to folk they can relate. pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DoonTheSlope Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Nobody, even the most pious, rushes to make thread about the latest atrocity in beirut because they couldn't care enough to do it but will all rush to comment with mock indignation when folk write anything about another that happens to folk they can relate. ######ing pathetic. Why don't you start a Beirut thread yourself then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Why don't you start a Beirut thread yourself thenbecause I don't give a about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I am not sure that is an adequate explanation. Millions (or at least hundreds of thousands) have been killed in similar attacks over the last 10 years. Folk on here do not care in general (my observation) . But 130 people die in Paris and suddenly it is big news. Why? I know why but it is weird that lives in France matter soooooo much when lives in Syria or Iraq mean so little. No? It is very weird IMO but easily explained by how our attitudes are controlled by the media. And I include myself in that. It's a bit like how folk leaving the UK to spread their undoubted talents all over the planet is usually thought of as "good migration" but folk coming here is always going to contain a big proportion of undesirables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Sunday Herald front page... f***ing hell. Im not sure they've thought that through properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/paris-terror-attacks-france-we-must-destroy-isis-but-not-play-into-their-hands-the-wrong-response-a6734506.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) because I don't give a ###### about it. No surprise there then....you really are something Edited November 14, 2015 by Lamia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Sunday Herald front page... f***ing hell. Im not sure they've thought that through properly. Christ almighty, just had a look. Nothing like fanning the flames so to speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/paris-terror-attacks-france-we-must-destroy-isis-but-not-play-into-their-hands-the-wrong-response-a6734506.html A bit more considered at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mee Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Sunday Herald front page... f***ing hell. Im not sure they've thought that through properly. Pretty graphic Take a look at @newsundayherald's Tweet: https://twitter.com/newsundayherald/status/665667080176410624?s=09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 No surprise there then....you really are somethingnobody else obviously cares enough about it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Sunday Herald front page... f***ing hell. Im not sure they've thought that through properly. Very surprised that they have went this graphic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 in fairness phart, I usually keep abreast of the news but like Most others I have a life outside the Internet and didn't hear about Beirut until the Paris story broke on a night off. Everyone has a life outside the internet. It's the disparity in the worth of lives that saddens me, not by folk who didn't know (if you don't know you don't know, we're all reliant on news services) but by the media outlets that DID know and hardly covered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 They say they thought long and hard about it - absolute pish Sensationalism at it's worst to sell papers Imagine you were the relative or a friend of those killed Just another rag like the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 A bayonet up the arse would be more appropriate for that sheichthoose they sodomized Gaddafi with a knife, before killing hi., How did that work out for your average Libyan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermer Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 nobody else obviously cares enough about it either. Well I do son. Even if you dont. Enough fannying about. Time as Joe Jordan days. Get in to them. them. They s hate us so them. Very sorry to wee apologists who blame media and usa for yesterday. Pricks. ashamed for you calling you so called scotland supporters. Scotland and france forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 they sodomized Gaddafi with a knife Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Well I do son. Even if you dont. Enough fannying about. Time as Joe Jordan days. Get ######ing in to them. ###### them. They ######s hate us so ###### them. Very sorry to wee apologists who blame media and usa for yesterday. Pricks. ashamed for you calling you so called scotland supporters. Scotland and france forever. I believe you can get into Kurdistan through Turkey. They will provide you with an AK-47 and basic training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Scotland and france forever. What about Beirut and Ankara ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 You can hardly blame individuals when our nation press chooses to ignore stuff that doesn't suit the national narrative. For the vast majority who dont have the time, means, whatever to actively Google foreign affairs, how do people really expect the majority to be? Even brief, factual coverage sometimes fails to capture the tragedy that goes on daily around the world, certainly nowhere near the scale of coverage we see from Paris. Slowly working my way back through the thread (when there is a big fight on during the night i have to take a nap now, otherwise i fall asleep, getting old). Yeah when i say lebanon flag it's not in a judgement of the individual but to the paltry news service. Also to make folk aware they aren't always getting good information, in fact often it is bad information. I don't sit and google news though. Although i generally go to people who aren't learning the news at the same time as me as they read it off a tele-prompter. Lastly everyone is responsible a little bit for the quality of information they use. You never know when it could come and bite you on the bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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