aaid Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It would be tricky for the SNP to take that offer, given Sturgeon's quote about not putting the Tories in government, as well as the way she has tried to reach out to rUK voters in the campaign. I think the only way would be to somehow strike a deal where a referendum on FFA is held, with a 'Yes' result seeing the SNP abstaining in a confidence vote on a Tory govt in Westminster. Whether this would be possible I've no idea - would there be an appetite for another referendum in Scotland? There wouldn't need to be a referendum on FFA, it could easily happen by an act of parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 There wouldn't need to be a referendum on FFA, it could easily happen by an act of parliament. Aye I know, I was thinking of how Sturgeon can back away from her promise not to put the Tories in at Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Don't agree - if Milliband was to offer Salmond deputy PM & a few concessions the SNP would jump at it. Equally, if Cameron was to offer FFA & the chance of another indyref, I think they would jump at that too. No chance. Either would be the deathknell of the party. They're many things, but they've proven themselves very astute at politicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 FFA would be massive if they can get it though. It would remove most of the obstacles to full independence. Would be worth the inevitable pain of the first few years. Just don't touch formal government of the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I've set pretty low expectations (30-40 seats) so Im not shitting myself too much. That said, I think 30-40 will be spun pretty hard as a decent result for Labour in the short term and a small part of me is nervous there will be a polling day collapse in the SNP vote (it doesnt have to drop far for seat numbers to drop substantially). But Im pretty confident my expectations will be met so Im OK with it. More than 40 will go some way to getting over September. As long as the SNP stay well clear of being associated with the UK government, even informally, Ill be happy. I'd actually have no problem with a big SNP win and being utterly shunned or marginalised in negotiations to ensure maximum distance between government and SNP. If SNP do get offered stuff, they need to manage it very carefully and ensure they get explicit, specific concessions but have little overall involvement in the on-going government of the UK. Roll on 10pm. This is the first of several political events that will help exorcise September 18th 2014. All nighter and a bottle vodka will keep tension to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 No matter what spin is attempted by anyone, if the SNP get over 29 seats then it isn't anything other than a major success. FFS if they get 18 & triple their current seats then that is still a very very impressive increase IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I would love love love it if Jim doesn't win the seat he's standing for. Long shot but we live in hope. No chance the SNP will get anything like 50 seats. This is so the unionist media can report this as a fail and them only gaining XX seats, despite it being the best in the party's history. I've done my bit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I've set pretty low expectations (30-40 seats) so Im not shitting myself too much. That said, I think 30-40 will be spun pretty hard as a decent result for Labour in the short term and a small part of me is nervous there will be a polling day collapse in the SNP vote (it doesnt have to drop far for seat numbers to drop substantially). But Im pretty confident my expectations will be met so Im OK with it. More than 40 will go some way to getting over September. As long as the SNP stay well clear of being associated with the UK government, even informally, Ill be happy. I'd actually have no problem with a big SNP win and being utterly shunned or marginalised in negotiations to ensure maximum distance between government and SNP. If SNP do get offered stuff, they need to manage it very carefully and ensure they get explicit, specific concessions but have little overall involvement in the on-going government of the UK. Roll on 10pm. This is the first of several political events that will help exorcise September 18th 2014. All nighter and a bottle vodka will keep tension to a minimum. This, well except a bottle of whisky and beers instead of the vodka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Might be a couple of beers too but any whisky and it's lights oot before the first MP is returned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbers Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I am utterly crapping it about the GE results. I just cannot face another 19th Sept feeling. Although nothing will ever match that feeling, if the results in this election are way off what the opinion polls suggest I just can't face the thought of what things will be like. I have a similar feeling of holding my breath as I did on the 17th Sept and am utterly dreading the wait for the results! I know quite a few of the candidates too and that makes this election so different to any other I have lived through. I just want things to go well for all the people I know who have worked so hard. Feeling very nervous have not been able to get to the polling station and will need to get there after work about 6pm Nothing will ever match that morning in September your face mirrored my own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I hope it isn't false confidence but I don't feel nearly as tense today as I did in September. No doubt the butterflies will put in an appearance around 10pm though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Got bet on 30 to 39 seats at 14 to 1Ladbrokes I had a taste of somthing similar on Betfair. 31-35 @ 13.5. You have a much better spread at Ladbrokes. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Nothing will ever match that morning in September your face mirrored my own! Judging by the occasional photos I've seen, either Lamia's let herself go a bit or you've had some expensive work done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Off to vote now, then going to bed for a while to get some sleep before watching some results come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just about to go out for my shift at the Ratho polling station. Given I am of the burly persuasion, concerned Ruth my try and start rumours about me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Just had an SNP knock at my door making sure I voted. I Asked how it was looking. He wobbled his hand and said we should know by 4am if Eck's done alright. Edited May 7, 2015 by flumax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Judging by the occasional photos I've seen, either Lamia's let herself go a bit or you've had some expensive work done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartandon Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just about to go out for my shift at the Ratho polling station. Given I am of the burly persuasion, concerned Ruth my try and start rumours about me! mis-read that as burly perversion. It would have been more interesting that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just had an SNP knock at my door making sure I voted. I Asked how it was looking. He wobbled his hand and said we should know by 4am if Eck's done alright. I think Eck should see it through. It'll be tighter than maybe many predicting, but I'll go for SNP 41 Libs 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 If the people of Gordon vote for Christine Jardine as their MP they truly deserve her.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm sad why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just had an SNP knock at my door making sure I voted. I Asked how it was looking. He wobbled his hand and said we should know by 4am if Eck's done alright. I think everyone should know by 4am , yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanhibee Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just finished my stint at the polling station and everyone seems quite upbeat and positive. Hopefully Michael Connarty is out on his arse come tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Katy oot? #prayforscunnered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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