Fred_Zeppelin Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Cut and paste, or did ye manage tae type it yersel? Mavis Bacon Touches Taping CSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Well you wouldn't buy Ashley's deals from him. You would just have to operate within the parameters of those deals. If that means you have less turnover to work with you cut your cloth accordingly. The summer should see a significant reduction in wages of players, plus a competent board should be able to identify where exactly the club is leaking money. The key period is from now until July, but I don't see that the figures being banded around in terms of debt are disproportionate in comparison with the turnover that rangers could achieve if they were being run properly. whether you buy him out or not if he is getting the reported 70% of margin then the ongoing costs in missed revenue opportunities would be enormous.... I dont see any option but to buy him out, long term consequences would be tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hearts have been given and additional allocation of tickets taking it from the initial 950 to over 2000 tickets for the game on 16th Jan must be desperate for money they should boycott the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The SPFL have sent a reminder today to Dundee Utd to pay their Football Debts due to Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The SPFL have sent a reminder today to Dundee Utd to pay their Football Debts due to Rangers. Dundee Utd should do a Lee Wallace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The SPFL have sent a reminder today to Dundee Utd to pay their Football Debts due to Rangers. They owe the money to the club or the company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 They owe the money to the club or the company? Boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The SPFL have sent a reminder today to Dundee Utd to pay their Football Debts due to Rangers. We will pay. Unlike some clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANDABBYDOZZY Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The SPFL have sent a reminder today to Dundee Utd to pay their Football Debts due to Rangers. When's it due ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The SPFL have sent a reminder today to Dundee Utd to pay their Football Debts due to Rangers. Ha ha ha, in actual fact it wasn't the spfl, according to Thompson it was the paupers themselves. To which Thompson replied, they will be paid on time. Due tomorrow I believe. Getting sweaty down Ibrox way is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpyauldgit Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I see that kvnt Ashley, has now put the second of his men on the board, and rather fittingly for some one representing a money grabbing parisite, his name is Barry Leach. Edited January 5, 2015 by Grumpyauldgit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Ha ha ha, in actual fact it wasn't the spfl, according to Thompson it was the paupers themselves. To which Thompson replied, they will be paid on time. Due tomorrow I believe. Getting sweaty down Ibrox way is it? Reporting Scotland and STV had it as today and that the SPFL had asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I see that kvnt Ashley, has now put the second of his men on the board, and rather fittingly for some one representing a money grabbing parisite, his name is Barry Leach. think Ashley doing that was a given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Reporting Scotland and STV had it as today and that the SPFL had asked. What would it have to do with the SPFL? If anybody it would be the SFA surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Celtic fans obviously and their favorite pastime :-)) . Here is Neil Doncaster's response to a a well known Celtic blogger from a fanzine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) If ROBERT Sarver had rolled into town a couple of years ago, he could well have been greeted as the saviour of their club by the majority of Rangers fans. A year or even a few months ago, and he would have got a similar response.But now, notwithstanding the much-needed millions the American is ready to pump into the troubled club, he may well be the messiah who came too late.The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Sarver offered £18 million for a controlling interest in Rangers shortly before Christmas. Just days later, Dave King and the so-called Three Bears – businessmen George Letham, Douglas Park and George Taylor – bought substantial stakes in the Ibrox club. Those two separate purchases mean that those groups and other opponents of the present board are now within touching distance of controlling a majority of the shares.As things stand, Sarver’s offer is going nowhere. He needs 75 per cent shareholding approval for it to go through, and, having just acquired their stakes after much time and effort, King and the Bears are not in any hurry to sell up. Instead, they and their allies will press on with their bid to take control, while at the same time remaining willing to talk to Sarver about investment opportunities.Here’s the arithmetic. Between them, King and the Bears control around 35 per cent of the shares. The Rangers Supporters Trust owns under 1 per cent, while former managers Ally McCoist and Walter Smith and erstwhile director Malcolm Murray have similar stakes. Individual fans are estimated to own between 8 and 11 per cent.That could be enough to form a block of around 50 per cent. The balance could then be definitively tipped by the 7 per cent owned by River and Mercantile, an asset management and pension consultancy group that appears to be a disinterested party with no axe to grind.Investment group Laxey Partners sold their 16 per cent share to the Bears last week, deciding to side with them and the fans against Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley, who owns around 9 per cent of Rangers, has installed his close associate Derek Llambias as chief executive, and has loaned the club several million pounds. South-Africa-based King bought his stake from fund managers Artemis and Miton. With Laxeys, Artemis and Miton all having opted to sell out to the growing, supporter-backed bandwagon, River and Mercantile could easily follow suit. For the Union of Fans, the umbrella group of Rangers supporters’ organisations that also includes the Trust, an outlook that has been gloomy is suddenly looking a lot brighter. Their spokesperson Chris Graham believes that the next change to the board could come as early as this week, and that the removal of some of the present directors may follow relatively quickly thereafter. The main targets for the Union of Fans are Sandy Easdale, a member of the football club board, his brother James, who sits on the plc board, and club chairman David Somers.“At present around 35 per cent of the shareholding has no representation on the board,” Graham said yesterday. “This has to change very quickly, and I think it could happen within the week. Once that happens I’d hope they can then start removing people from the board.“It doesn’t take a huge leap from the present position to get over 50 per cent, especially if River and Mercantile support the required change. An emergency general meeting could be called to remove the Easdales and Somers from the board, and it only needs 5 per cent of the shares, or something like 100 individual shareholders, to call an EGM.“But it doesn’t need to come to that. It’s not difficult for the Nomad” – the Nominated Adviser who oversees the business under licence from the Stock Exchange – “to go round shareholders and ask who supports a move to replace those board members. The Nomad would then be able to inform them that their position is untenable and they should go, without any need for an EGM.”The Union is in touch with King and the Bears, one of whom, Letham, sits on the Trust board and is a contributor to BuyRangers, the group which enables individual fans to club together to purchase shares. “Sarver’s proposal cannot work in its present form, because it would require 75 per cent of the shareholding to vote it through,” Graham continued.“I don’t think that Dave King and the Three Bears have got to this position to immediately sell up their shares to a guy with no apparent interest in the club. So my advice or request to Sarver would be: go and speak to Dave King and the Three Bears and see if you can invest in the club with their agreement.“It’s not as if Sarver is the only person who wants to invest in the club. I don’t think we need to say ‘Okay, random American guy, come and take over’. That doesn’t mean Sarver couldn’t invest in the club, but we would not support him at this stage.“We’re not in a position to try and chase away any people who want to invest in the club. But over the past two or three years the people in charge of the club have looked after themselves. We really do need stability now.”http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...late-1-3651664 Stock exchange have confirmed the Sarver bid has been rejected. Edited January 6, 2015 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Celtic fans obviously and their favorite pastime :-)) . Here is Neil Doncaster's response to a a well known Celtic blogger from a fanzine I don't remember Palace, Bristol City or Leeds being withdrawn from the league because they were liquidated. I don't remember their new clubs having to apply to the league to start again. Doncaster is an idiot and Rangers fans using him to try and kid themselves that it's the same club have kinda proved themselves wrong. Your old club died. You have a new one. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) I don't remember Palace, Bristol City or Leeds being withdrawn from the league because they were liquidated. I don't remember their new clubs having to apply to the league to start again. Doncaster is an idiot and Rangers fans using him to try and kid themselves that it's the same club have kinda proved themselves wrong. Your old club died. You have a new one. Get over it. we're fine mate. Different rules for different leagues and all that. In hindsight we probably should not have been relegated to league three but the member clubs demanded punitive action and rightly so. They could have just as easily placed us in the next but one tier. Edited January 6, 2015 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 we're fine mate. Different rules for different leagues and all that. In hindsight we probably should not have been relegated to league three but the member clubs demanded punitive action and rightly so. They could have just as easily placed us in the next but one tier. You weren't relegated You died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You weren't relegated You died only in your tiny brain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I don't remember Palace, Bristol City or Leeds being withdrawn from the league because they were liquidated. I don't remember their new clubs having to apply to the league to start again. Doncaster is an idiot and Rangers fans using him to try and kid themselves that it's the same club have kinda proved themselves wrong. Your old club died. You have a new one. Get over it. Aye, we're the ones that need to get over it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You weren't relegated You died As I recall, the club wasn't relegated. It had to apply to join the League and was voted in by the member clubs and was allowed to join at League 2 level. Wasn't Rangers just an "associate" member when they were allowed to join or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) Celtic fans obviously and their favorite pastime :-)) . Here is Neil Doncaster's response to a a well known Celtic blogger from a fanzine would be helpful to see the email sent to doncaster.guessing there were no searching questiones asked of him on this subject Edited January 6, 2015 by Langtonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 As I recall, the club wasn't relegated. It had to apply to join the League and was voted in by the member clubs and was allowed to join at League 2 level. Wasn't Rangers just an "associate" member when they were allowed to join or something? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yep. Thanks. I was sure it was something like that. These things can get misremembered through time. Especially at my age. Well, that's my excuse anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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