Scunnered Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 It'll be the one seat where the SNP candidate is more of a Tory than the Labour one then. very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 SNP select Tory loving Patricia Gibson as their candidate for North Ayrshire & Arran. Got my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 SNP select Tory loving Patricia Gibson as their candidate for North Ayrshire & Arran. It'll be the one seat where the SNP candidate is more of a Tory than the Labour one then. Don't the Conservatives hold that seat in the Scottish Parliament - could be tactical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The SNP will just declare independence after they secure their Westminster majority. ...not really. But wait for this 'serious risk' and 'undemocratic move' to receive wall to wall coverage at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Don't the Conservatives hold that seat in the Scottish Parliament - could be tactical... No... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The SNP will just declare independence after they secure their Westminster majority. ...not really. But wait for this 'serious risk' and 'undemocratic move' to receive wall to wall coverage at some point. The Ironic thing was up until 2005, that was the excepted rule. Win majority of MPs in Scotland and declare Indy......Salmond decided to change it to a Referendum as it would give SNP a better chance of winning in Holyrude.... a guid few folk in the Party were not that happy at the time.... He was proved right as the SNP won the 2007 election by 1 seat, which only had a majority of 28...(Scunnereds home patch north Ayrshire). so that might not have happened if there was no promise of a ref.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Just saw on STV that Murphy had to cancel a press-shoot with the Big Issue today, as a result of the poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Just saw on STV that Murphy had to cancel a press-shoot with the Big Issue today, as a result of the poll Aye, the polls really WERE his Big Issue the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I just cant see these polls bearing out i don't trust polls anymore anyway and when it comes to the crunch, or after months of one sided media bombardment, people will choke and revert to type the labour machine will go into scaremonger mach II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 No... I was thinking of the "Ayr" seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Worth reposting this here I think... https://lenathehyena.wordpress.com/tag/bbc-scotland/ That's pretty chilling - is it well known? Someone should draw a diagram of it... like Rock n Roll family trees (if anyone remembers that...) That would be a picture worth the 1000 words... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Maq, something has happened. I don't know what it is, but having been pummelled with top strength referendum propaganda, I think these new SNP-minded voters are going to be impervious to mere general election propaganda. Normally we'd expect the SNP to fall back due to being invisible in UK campaign coverage, but as things are so unusual now even the BBC are going to be mentioning the SNP a lot more, which can only help. I was also puzzling over how the SNP figures could apparently be so buoyant after their honeymoon period was over, and given Jim Murphy seems to be on a permanent honeymoon period in the media with 50 achievements in 50 days, including several populist sounding announcements that you'd think might tempt labour voters back. I saw earlier this week some clip on the news of someone - an ex Labour Yes voter I think - saying she'd felt betrayed by the way Labour handled themselves in the referndum etc. Betrayal is a strong word but it could explain a thing or two - if it's anything like what (some) Lib Dem voters felt waking up the day after the election only to find them going into bed with the Tories and reneging on their election pledges for a whiff of power. For people who felt betrayed by that, you're not going to vote Lib Dem in a hurry, no matter how sweet and nice or however pure-dead-Lib-Dem their next election pledges are... at the very least you would make sure to not vote Lib Dem at the next big occasion it mattered such as the next GE. If there are any Labour voters feeling the same way you could see how they might hold off voting Labour even if Murphy was promising pure-dead-traditional-red Labour-like policies. Of course all this is just speculation... Not a single vote of consequence has been cast since 18th Sept, and no swing of consequence will be realised till May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Curtice says: Even so, today's polls also underline the potential fragility of the SNP's position. In half of the Labour seats in which he polled, Lord Ashcroft reckons the SNP's lead is less than 10 percentage points. In these cases a relatively small swing back to Labour could yet see Jim Murphy's party emerge as victor. There is still an awful lot to play for in the three months between now and polling day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31126686 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtscotland Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Curtice says: Even so, today's polls also underline the potential fragility of the SNP's position. In half of the Labour seats in which he polled, Lord Ashcroft reckons the SNP's lead is less than 10 percentage points. In these cases a relatively small swing back to Labour could yet see Jim Murphy's party emerge as victor. There is still an awful lot to play for in the three months between now and polling day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31126686 Yes - no room for complacency. In the link you gave the BBC gave prominence to the ripostes from Alexander and Murphy by using LARGE lettering inside a GIANT box. A not so subtle bias from BBC - particularly as Murphy's is a political message. Edited February 4, 2015 by tomtscotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Curtice says: Even so, today's polls also underline the potential fragility of the SNP's position. In half of the Labour seats in which he polled, Lord Ashcroft reckons the SNP's lead is less than 10 percentage points. In these cases a relatively small swing back to Labour could yet see Jim Murphy's party emerge as victor. There is still an awful lot to play for in the three months between now and polling day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31126686 Polls showing massive swings to SNP and labour losing almost all of their safest seats "underlines the fragility of the SNP's position" That's a very bizarre way of looking at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Polls showing massive swings to SNP and labour losing almost all of their safest seats "underlines the fragility of the SNP's position" That's a very bizarre way of looking at it! Indeed. They've only got 6 seats at the moment! Edited February 4, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Curtice says: Even so, today's polls also underline the potential fragility of the SNP's position. In half of the Labour seats in which he polled, Lord Ashcroft reckons the SNP's lead is less than 10 percentage points. In these cases a relatively small swing back to Labour could yet see Jim Murphy's party emerge as victor. There is still an awful lot to play for in the three months between now and polling day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31126686 FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Worth reposting this here I think... https://lenathehyena.wordpress.com/tag/bbc-scotland/ Yeah it's a small cabal at the BBC after Labour smashed them in the Dr Kelly case and Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Yeah it's a small cabal at the BBC after Labour smashed them in the Dr Kelly case and Iraq. It's not a small cabal in Scotland, judging by that. Nearly phuqqing all of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 It's not a small cabal in Scotland, judging by that. Nearly phuqqing all of them! Fair point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 awrite, u in other Paisley They didn't have a Green, and we did, they could only afford to put one guy up, the guy who won lives in your seat, so that's where he is standing.... Sheriiden was the MP who voted against Gay Marriage...... A couple of ex Labour girls I know say his seat is safer than Doogies... but they will put plenty of manpower and money into Doogies seat so who knows Paisley is a Yes area... over 60% in places.... we will wait and see.... Talk o' the deil, came home tonight to the first piece of election bumf from Mr Sheridan. "Together we can keep the Tories out" it says. "Vote for anyone other than Labour and put a smile on his face" (photo of smiling David Cameron). Nary a mention of the SNP on the whole thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I think this is for Scunnered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Talk o' the deil, came home tonight to the first piece of election bumf from Mr Sheridan. "Together we can keep the Tories out" it says. "Vote for anyone other than Labour and put a smile on his face" (photo of smiling David Cameron). Nary a mention of the SNP on the whole thing... I'm looking for a hashtag that's snappy and reflects Sheridan's invisibility in his role as MP for Paisley and Renfrewshire North. Struggling a we bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I think this is for Scunnered I don't need to watch it to know its shite. The mans scum... Not a term I use lightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I'm sure the publicity these polls are getting will encourage the Unionists to come out in force against the SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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