ScotlandFanMuir Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Every game in this group campaign is going to be absolutely vital, every single point is going to have to be fought for. It's already got the makings of a group that's 2nd/3rd place teams are going to be decided by the odd goal. That's where yesterday comes in. The Ireland game was a shift and a half. Fair enough. Yesterday we didn't look up for it at all. The worry for me now is looking to our fixtures next year and in particular the DOUBLE HEADER in September. Away to Georgia and at home to Germany. 2 games in 4 days. Right now, anything can happen in our group - but we've got to be targetting 4 points from those games. The question is though, are our players capable of producing twice in 4 days? Away in Georgia is going to be massive task and at home to the World Champions speaks for itself. Yes, yesterday was a friendly but the players were giving it the 'this means so much more' chat. A bit disheartened by yesterdays performance and work so I thought I'd come on here and depress you all too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The Ireland game was not normal, it was almost the equivalent of 2 games back to back. Georgia will be defending for most of the game, of that I've no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boss Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Whilst Germany have dropped points so far, to suggest we should be looking to take a point from them is daft. We will go all out for the 3 points in Georgia and then hope for the best against the best team in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) We travelled to Poland and gained a hard earned point after playing Georgia a few days earlier. Think it's better that the Georgia away game is first. That's a must win if we want to finish in the automatic qualifying places and possibly 3rd. Off the back of 3 points there and an off night for Germany then maybe we can get a result Edited November 19, 2014 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I doubt I have seen a more intense physically demanding game than Ireland last Friday, I was totally knackered afterwards & I was just sitting in the stand, everything was gave (by both teams) Maybe with hindsight Strachan shouldn't have listened to his players & freshened the starting 11 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Whilst Germany have dropped points so far, to suggest we should be looking to take a point from them is daft. We will go all out for the 3 points in Georgia and then hope for the best against the best team in the world. This. Anything from Germany was and still is a bonus. We'll go all in in the Georgia game and go for the win. The easier that is, the more chance we have of getting a bonus point or 3 from Germany. But the general point is fair: if we had a Poland/Ireland double header I'd be worried we couldn't get ourselves up for two big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton wanderer Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I am not particularly worried. You could tell after 10 minutes that it was different last night and remember Friday was a brutal, tense game. As the poster above says we took a really good point in Poland after playing Georgia 4 days before. After the 99 game and the 96 game I could hardly function as I was so gutted but this was an ill timed friendly so forget it - no points lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMan Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Picked up 4 points from Georgia at home and Poland away in 4 days so no real concerns on that front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooky Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 This group for us will now be decided by 3 games: Ireland (A) Georgia (A) Poland (H) We get 7 points or better from those then we get 2nd place, 5 or 6 points from those games might even be enough. We should get 6 points from Gibraltar taking us to 20 points and have a free shot at Germany at Hampden with nothing expected. These 3 games are not part of the same double headers; June, September & October....concentrate on these 3 games, other 3 will take care of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I would be more worried if like last time the Georgia away game was the second game of a double header. 3 points required then anything from Germany is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 This group for us will now be decided by 3 games: Ireland (A) Georgia (A) Poland (H) We get 7 points or better from those then we get 2nd place, 5 or 6 points from those games might even be enough. We should get 6 points from Gibraltar taking us to 20 points and have a free shot at Germany at Hampden with nothing expected. These 3 games are not part of the same double headers; June, September & October....concentrate on these 3 games, other 3 will take care of themselves. All good points. 7 points would be a fantastic return but all 3 are very tough matches. Getting nervous just thinking about it. Still got a long way to go to qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stactuso85 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 We should be looking to win all our remaining games including Germany at home, they're far from invincible, surely that much is obvious by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 We should be looking to win all our remaining games including Germany at home, they're far from invincible, surely that much is obvious by now. And we are ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandFanMuir Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Poland have beaten Germany and Ireland have taken a point off them. For that reason alone, we have go to be aiming for a point in our home tie against the World Champions to match what the other teams in our group are doing. The difference between going through in these groups and staying at home are the odd point here or there. We've got to aim high in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 If we qualify we'll need to play 3 games in a week, at the end of a season too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Got to keep things in perspective fellas, as much as we'd LOVE to have got it up they s last night the game was as good as irrelevant, it was basically just an irritation. Would you rather have swapped the results round? don't think so. As much as I am pi$$ed off about it for obvious reasons, I'm more than happy we got the all important 2nd consecutive group win. I'd quite happily lose EVERY friendly if we won enough group games to qualify for tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 This group for us will now be decided by 3 games: Ireland (A) Georgia (A) Poland (H) We get 7 points or better from those then we get 2nd place, 5 or 6 points from those games might even be enough. We should get 6 points from Gibraltar taking us to 20 points and have a free shot at Germany at Hampden with nothing expected. These 3 games are not part of the same double headers; June, September & October....concentrate on these 3 games, other 3 will take care of themselves. I'm with this. Any points off Germany is a bonus to any team. I have some sympathy for the view that the Ireland game took it out of us, look at how much slower we were all over the park last night - until I look at the Ireland result from last night - 4-1 v USA. I guess the Irish weren't as tired as us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I would be more worried if like last time the Georgia away game was the second game of a double header. 3 points required then anything from Germany is a bonus. last Georgia away - ie under McLeish ? it was midweek (2-0 loss / maroon kit - 16yr old keeper etc) meaning we had to beat itly at home on the satruday.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I doubt I have seen a more intense physically demanding game than Ireland last Friday, I was totally knackered afterwards & I was just sitting in the stand, everything was gave (by both teams) Maybe with hindsight Strachan shouldn't have listened to his players & freshened the starting 11 ?? Yeah he probably should've rotated - fresh legs Russell etc made a difference. Broony looked knackered and Martin needs to stay away from KFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison1982 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) I'm with this. Any points off Germany is a bonus to any team. I have some sympathy for the view that the Ireland game took it out of us, look at how much slower we were all over the park last night - until I look at the Ireland result from last night - 4-1 v USA. I guess the Irish weren't as tired as us... Ireland v USA was practically a B international. Ireland made loads of changes from Friday. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30006678 Edited November 19, 2014 by morrison1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albathebrave Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Got to keep things in perspective fellas, as much as we'd LOVE to have got it up they bunny rabbits last night the game was as good as irrelevant, it was basically just an irritation. Would you rather have swapped the results round? don't think so. As much as I am pi$$ed off about it for obvious reasons, I'm more than happy we got the all important 2nd consecutive group win. I'd quite happily lose EVERY friendly if we won enough group games to qualify for tournaments. you just took all my hurt at losing to england away! cracker of a post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianp Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 It will be tight and require Scotland to be at our best to qualify. One good thing from last night was the introduction of Russell and May, both did not look out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I put more stock in the fact that too many of our key players were to put in a poor display. Did fatigue play its part? Maybe mentally but for the first half hour we matched them but as soon as we went behind it was always going to be tough especially with out our No.1 striker Fletcher. We put in our poorest display for over a year whilst England (who are a better side) put in their best display by all accounts for about a year hence the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 last Georgia away - ie under McLeish ? it was midweek (2-0 loss / maroon kit - 16yr old keeper etc) meaning we had to beat itly at home on the satruday.... The Georgia and Italy games were a month apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Ireland v USA was practically a B international. Ireland made loads of changes from Friday. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30006678 Yep, they changed their entire starting 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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