the flying scotsman Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 is there anyone out there that could provide the killing touch that we need (ie,,,jordan rhodes prolific goalscorer)fletcher once he gets a goal who knows and naisy who knows again but they are great players outside the box maybe if we are to qualify we need to look at other options what do you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigtownshire-Matt Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 It's one thing we're lacking. The teams we're competing with all have someone with an eye for goal. Ireland have Keane, Poland have Lewandoski can even mention Muller for the Germans now that they've been dragged into things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I don't understand why Jordan Rhodes isn't more involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
France here we come Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I don't understand why Jordan Rhodes isn't more involved. Nor do I. Starting to think it may be a personal issue with GS and him. Seems very strange that he isn't even involved with the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McVinceSCT Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I'm really surprised by the Rhodes issue too. Really strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Was GS not suggesting that Rhodes does not do enough tracking back and "mucking in" for the style of play he want's to adopt for the team? He admitted that he was a superb finisher, but needed him to develop a more rounded game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
France here we come Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 He'd have been a great option for us last Saturday when trying to kill the game off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 He definitely should be in the squad. Heel be banging them in in the EPL soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I would like to see Stevie May get a start in our next friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 The problem with Rhodes is he is not good playing as a lone striker but when we change it to a more 442 formation then I think him and fletch would be fantastic together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmondo Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) He's hardly been prolific this calendar year though. 13 goals of which a couple were penalties. I can't comment on his general play as I've not seen him, and 13 goals isn't terrible, but by his own goalscoring standards he hasn't been banging them as frequently. Chris Martin has scored 19 in the same period for comparison. I do like him but I can see where strachan is coming from just now. Hopefully Rhodes finally gets a move in the next window. Edited October 19, 2014 by dezmondo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 The problem with Rhodes is he is not good playing as a lone striker but when we change it to a more 442 formation then I think him and fletch would be fantastic together He won't change the system just to suit an individual though. I think he will only have squad strikers who are capable of playing the lone role or linking from midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McVinceSCT Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 So what if we are 1-0 down with 15mns to play? That's (maybe only) Rhodes should be in the squad. We don't need 5 strikers with the same profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allyc Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 He scores goals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 So what if we are 1-0 down with 15mns to play? That's (maybe only) Rhodes should be in the squad. We don't need 5 strikers with the same profile. Exactly this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I remain to be convinced about Jordan Rhodes but would be happy to see him get another chance or two. We're not exactly flush with goalscorers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Jordan Rhodes is one dimensional. Being a Scotland striker requires more than just the ability to put the ball in the net. As S.Fletcher had shown in his last few performances. But, yes, we could certainly do with a reliable goalscorer. Rhodes, McCormack and C.Martin are never going to be that guy. They may score a decent amount in the championship, but there is a reason they ply their trade there. Whereas, the superior, Fletcher and Naismith are playing in the premier league, despite scoring fewer goals. To answer your question, Tony Watt has a lot of strings to his bow. He could be the one. Stevie May also has shown he is more than just a goalscorer. They are probably the 2 most likely to break through in the next 2 years. But there are plenty of younger guys not far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Our problem is that we concede soft goals, the 2 german goals were avoidable as was polands first, and against England. the likes of the irish rarely lose such goals. So if we cut out stupid mistakes we would be sitting pretty on 9 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's one thing we're lacking. The teams we're competing with all have someone with an eye for goal. Ireland have Keane, Poland have Lewandoski can even mention Muller for the Germans now that they've been dragged into things. That's exactly it, most other nations have someone who is guaranteed a goal most games where we lack that luxury. In my lifetime, 26 years, the most prolific forward would be Kenny Miller with 18(top of my head) goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Eagle Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) I was on here a couple of years ago shouting about Rhodes (Jordan RhodesHeScoresGoals as I call him). He was 21/22 then. Blackburn was a car crash of club when he made, IMO, a disappointing move. It was still a step up after his spectacular Huddersfield exploits as a 19-21 yo, and here's how he resounded (any doubters, invest 4 minutes of your time in "A Season with Jordan RhodesHeScoresGoals"). Edited October 20, 2014 by Tartan Eagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 We need to be creating more chances in good areas.I think we have the strikers to put the chances away, but they need to be fed. I think Robertson swinging in the ball to Fletcher's head, or onto the feet of Rhodes, could be very fruitful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Strachan said at his first Q&A that we just do not create the chances for our strikers.... he mentioned the bigger nations have the system in place that 1 chance can equal 1 goal, whereas we have to be putting in 50+ chances into the box for our strikers to get on the end of to create one goal. That was over a year ago he said that, and I think things are starting to click into place that the goals will come. Problem is, Strachans style is defend from the front almost..... look at Griffiths in Zagreb, he wasn't put there to score goals, but just get stuck in to the Croatians and chase after every ball to keep it up the park. This has continues somewhat under Fletcher, as he just seems to be failing to get himself into scoring chances, yet holding the ball up to create chances for others. I do not think Strachan will turn us into a team who will beat teams 3/4-0, but got us playing in a way that we make all our goals count when it matters at the end of 90 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boss Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I don't quite get the obsession with Rhodes. He's scored half the goals Chris Martin has this season, and is third top scorer at Blackburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Strachan said at his first Q&A that we just do not create the chances for our strikers.... he mentioned the bigger nations have the system in place that 1 chance can equal 1 goal, whereas we have to be putting in 50+ chances into the box for our strikers to get on the end of to create one goal. That was over a year ago he said that, and I think things are starting to click into place that the goals will come. Problem is, Strachans style is defend from the front almost..... look at Griffiths in Zagreb, he wasn't put there to score goals, but just get stuck in to the Croatians and chase after every ball to keep it up the park. This has continues somewhat under Fletcher, as he just seems to be failing to get himself into scoring chances, yet holding the ball up to create chances for others. I do not think Strachan will turn us into a team who will beat teams 3/4-0, but got us playing in a way that we make all our goals count when it matters at the end of 90 minutes. The current system is a lot more sophisticated than the one Kenny Miller had to slog his guts out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Rhodes fell out with Strachan, common knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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