killiefaetheferry Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I keep thinking about Miliband getting rejected in favour of Cameron. Wings called that one right, saying that in a GE it often comes down to who the public can genuinely see as a statesmanlike leader. May being such a horrible cow is clouding my thinking though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, killiefaetheferry said: I keep thinking about Miliband getting rejected in favour of Cameron. Wings called that one right, saying that in a GE it often comes down to who the public can genuinely see as a statesmanlike leader. May being such a horrible cow is clouding my thinking though. My wife thought TM was going to be a good PM when elected, She can't be done with the sight of her now,, she is not politically minded but that seems to be the perception she has now,, the honeymoon period never lasted long with TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 45 minutes ago, killiefaetheferry said: I keep thinking about Miliband getting rejected in favour of Cameron. Wings called that one right, saying that in a GE it often comes down to who the public can genuinely see as a statesmanlike leader. May being such a horrible cow is clouding my thinking though. I think you're right although while I'm not convinced that many people think May fits the bill - or at least, a lot less now than did before the election was called - I suspect enough people will take the view that - in their opinion - that the alternative is worse. One thing though that hadn't really been picked up. There was a poll in the last couple of days on voting intentions but they also did the personal approval ratings - which I personally reckon are bollocks but are probably relevant in this context - and for the first time May's approval ratings were worse than Corbyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 39 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: My wife thought TM was going to be a good PM when elected, I assume your wife doesn't follow politics? As May has always a two-faced, evil cow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Parklife said: I assume your wife doesn't follow politics? As May has always a two-faced, evil cow. I think he said his wife wasn't politically minded Edited June 6, 2017 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockodile Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 corbyn and labour in general, but not SLAB who seem something different, have had a great campaign but WTF do they keep allowing Diane Abbott to do interviews. she is going to cost them heaps of votes, utterly hopless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, Parklife said: I assume your wife doesn't follow politics? As May has always a two-faced, evil cow. No she hates politics especially ATM but the point i was making is that when a politician is newly appointed it usually takes a couple of years before the mask slips and the "real" politician can be seen to joe public with little interest in day to day politics,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: No she hates politics especially ATM but the point i was making is that when a politician is newly appointed it usually takes a couple of years before the mask slips and the "real" politician can be seen to joe public with little interest in day to day politics,, She's been a minister since 2010 though, she's not newly appointed. A quick 2 minute look at her voting record shows what kind of person she is. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/votes To think she would be a good PM, you'd have to know almost nothing about her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 with hardly any activists on the ground, was wondering what the Tories were up to. Excellent piece of investigative journalism here from open democracy. Looks like Ayrshire has a lot of dirty money to spend! https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/brexitinc/adam-ramsay-peter-geoghegan/dark-money-driving-scottish-tory-surge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, Parklife said: She's been a minister since 2010 though, she's not newly appointed. A quick 2 minute look at her voting record shows what kind of person she is. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/votes To think she would be a good PM, you'd have to know almost nothing about her. That probably covered at least 90% of the population at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 47 minutes ago, aaid said: I think you're right although while I'm not convinced that many people think May fits the bill - or at least, a lot less now than did before the election was called - I suspect enough people will take the view that - in their opinion - that the alternative is worse. One thing though that hadn't really been picked up. There was a poll in the last couple of days on voting intentions but they also did the personal approval ratings - which I personally reckon are bollocks but are probably relevant in this context - and for the first time May's approval ratings were worse than Corbyn. Yes I've seen that, which makes it more difficult to call. My wife liked Corbyn much better than May in the TV stand-up thingy the other night, and I think he is more 'likeable' than her. Just goes to show what a brilliant job the right wing media had done to demonise the guy. Today the wife asked if I would divorce her if she voted Labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, killiefaetheferry said: Yes I've seen that, which makes it more difficult to call. My wife liked Corbyn much better than May in the TV stand-up thingy the other night, and I think he is more 'likeable' than her. Just goes to show what a brilliant job the right wing media had done to demonise the guy. Today the wife asked if I would divorce her if she voted Labour And, did she get the answer she wanted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Turns out she was just being a tease, but is now in the huff because I told her I would save myself the bother and just bury her in the back garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Orraloon said: That probably covered at least 90% of the population at the time. Not sure about the exact percentage but I'd say it is disturbingly high. I come across so many people who are completely ignorant on the subject and vote without looking into the policies, they just don't seem to get how important it is. This makes it easy for political parties who use soundbites and catchphrases. So frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, killiefaetheferry said: Yes I've seen that, which makes it more difficult to call. My wife liked Corbyn much better than May in the TV stand-up thingy the other night, and I think he is more 'likeable' than her. Just goes to show what a brilliant job the right wing media had done to demonise the guy. Today the wife asked if I would divorce her if she voted Labour During indy ref i got so invilved in the whole thing it was cracking the wife up, she said that if I didn't give it a rest she would vote no? It a good job because inwould have always held it against her,,its maybe a bit petty of me but i often categorise folk into yes and no voters and will always have a little chip on my shoulder against them,, yes i know i shouldnt ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Parklife said: I assume your wife doesn't follow politics? As May has always a two-faced, evil cow. Agree with you on that one. Not sure why not all saw that (or maybe they did) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 53 minutes ago, Och Aye said: Not sure about the exact percentage but I'd say it is disturbingly high. I come across so many people who are completely ignorant on the subject and vote without looking into the policies, they just don't seem to get how important it is. This makes it easy for political parties who use soundbites and catchphrases. So frustrating. To be fair though, she's never really been subjected to any scrutiny until now so its hardly surprising. In the Tory leadership race, she was basically the last woman standing as all the other candidates either stabbed each other in the back or committed Hari-Kari. I've always been slightly conflicted by her given she's actually my MP. She's a pretty good constituency MP and takes that side of it very seriously but I've never agreed with the policies she's either backed or implemented herself, consequently I've never voted for her. Before she became PM I was fairly ambivalent about her personally but now I can't stand the sight of her and I know I'm not the only one locally that thinks that. No danger of her not being elected on Thursday but I think there will be a bit of dent in that 30,000 majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
they've_been_suckered Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Parklife said: She's been a minister since 2010 though, she's not newly appointed. A quick 2 minute look at her voting record shows what kind of person she is. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/votes To think she would be a good PM, you'd have to know almost nothing about her. That's a great source of info. Never seen that before. Quite telling though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 38 minutes ago, they've_been_suckered said: That's a great source of info. Never seen that before. Quite telling though! So she is another selfish shit. (As a minimum) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, mariokempes56 said: So she is another selfish shit. (As a minimum) She's a Tory, Sherlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Storming speech there by Corbyn in Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres the pies Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Storming speech there by Corbyn in Birmingham. Michael crick was on channel 4 news the night and saying that no political leader since Churchill have drawing crowds like Jeramy corbyn has but of course the right media will never show this nor has the BBC for that matter any new polls out yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, wheres the pies said: Michael crick was on channel 4 news the night and saying that no political leader since Churchill have drawing crowds like Jeramy corbyn has but of course the right media will never show this nor has the BBC for that matter any new polls out yet ? Plus, Corbyn isn't in favouring of slaughtering brown people with chemical weapons, so is clearly superior to Churchill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, Parklife said: Plus, Corbyn isn't in favouring of slaughtering brown people with chemical weapons, so is clearly superior to Churchill. Succinctly put my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 28 minutes ago, wheres the pies said: Michael crick was on channel 4 news the night and saying that no political leader since Churchill have drawing crowds like Jeramy corbyn has but of course the right media will never show this nor has the BBC for that matter any new polls out yet ? Meanwhile Tory supporters in a dank Edinburgh warehouse are told to clap and cheer May and The Tank Commander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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