RenfrewBlue Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 52 minutes ago, AberdeenAngus said: If the clubs would accept 'Strict Liability' then these & other incidents would soon stop. Totally agree. Problem is none of them want to, despite the Old Firm fans being the only ones that ever cause any bother according to some on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Stu101 said: Agreed. But wasn't it 40-0 against last time in the vote? Its going to have to be imposed like the Champions League rules are. It won't be imposed as it needs the clubs to agree unfortunately. Most of us on here know what is and isn't acceptable and how to move things on. Clubs for some reason are to scared to accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 26 minutes ago, AberdeenAngus said: It won't be imposed as it needs the clubs to agree unfortunately. Most of us on here know what is and isn't acceptable and how to move things on. Clubs for some reason are to scared to accept it. Someone once told me it was for insurance reasons - which would make sense I suppose. Its odd otherwise that every single club would be against it. Its probably the only thing they have been united on ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 8 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Old Firm fans being the only ones that ever cause any bother I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 11 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Personally I think the fact that Rangers made such stupid knee jerk statements has undermined the valid argument they have. No player or club employee should be subjected to the events after the final whistle that happened last season. For some reason because Rangers put out some stupid statements it's become acceptable for their employees to be assaulted. The TAMB posts on this subject have been nothing short of pathetic in general. If I remember correctly the Hearts fan that assaulted Neil Lennon got away with it despite it being a televised event. So I'm not holding my breath on the authorities getting anything done to the guilty parties this time either. Because the fiscal tried to add a religious motivation to the assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 12 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Personally I think the fact that Rangers made such stupid knee jerk statements has undermined the valid argument they have. No player or club employee should be subjected to the events after the final whistle that happened last season. For some reason because Rangers put out some stupid statements it's become acceptable for their employees to be assaulted. The TAMB posts on this subject have been nothing short of pathetic in general. If I remember correctly the Hearts fan that assaulted Neil Lennon got away with it despite it being a televised event. So I'm not holding my breath on the authorities getting anything done to the guilty parties this time either. He got 8 months for breach of the peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Parklife said: Because the fiscal tried to add a religious motivation to the assault. I know and i understand why he did that but it was always going to be a much harder case doing it that way. Should have stuck with the basic assault charge and it would have been a slam dunk. Hindsight is always 20/20 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Orraloon said: He got 8 months for breach of the peace. Didn't realise that but to be honest that's a lot less than the walloper deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 6 hours ago, dandydunn said: I agree Except obviously the Motherwell fans season before last, Hibs fans last season and the Aberdeen fans on here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Except obviously the Motherwell fans season before last, Hibs fans last season and the Aberdeen fans on here ? Aberdeen fans on here doing what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 46 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Aberdeen fans on here doing what? To be fair, i think he's making a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Parklife said: To be fair, i think he's making a joke. I was. I thought the smiley would be enough of a hint. Was worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Charges against both teams dismissed. ??? SFA...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassrubber Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Looking forward to the pitch invasions at Wembley in November and all domestic important games - its acceptable apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, Brassrubber said: Looking forward to the pitch invasions at Wembley in November and all domestic important games - its acceptable apparently. Quite bizarre the whole thing. Apparently hibs lawyer tore them a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 49 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Quite bizarre the whole thing. Apparently hibs lawyer tore them a new one. Blame the clubs including your own for knocking back strict liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 57 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Quite bizarre the whole thing. Apparently hibs lawyer tore them a new one. Seemingly didn't have too. Without strict liability the clubs are pretty safe. Relatively short hearing. Good to hear the Hibs paid for the damage though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Love a statement do Rangers. Although I haven't seen one about the damage at parkhead or pittodrie.... http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-67/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Hibs hired a top lawyer while Dave Kings millions had to rely on legal aid Armageddon II is looming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 28 September 2016 at 7:58 PM, Stu101 said: Seemingly didn't have too. Without strict liability the clubs are pretty safe. Relatively short hearing. Good to hear the Hibs paid for the damage though. Fans chipping in via a go fund me page. I donated while wearing the very same trainers which were the cause of much exuberance that day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Hibs hired a top lawyer while Dave Kings millions had to rely on legal aid Armageddon II is looming Ha- legal aid! hope you get the Jail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
they've_been_suckered Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: Love a statement do Rangers. Although I haven't seen one about the damage at parkhead or pittodrie.... http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-67/ Tom English said as much on sportsound tonight. I'm liking him more every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 The SFA are an utter shambles. They seem more interested in getting some cash out of the clubs than sorting their own pathetic security. So all of Scotlands home games will be equally badly policed too. meaning the dangerous problems seen at the Poland game can and will happen again. not very reassuring for the England game when it comes. As for Rangers statement, factually it's not too bad but the tone is the usual "holier than thou" that just pisses off everyone that reads it. Whoever does our statements is a sanctimonious twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, RenfrewBlue said: The SFA are an utter shambles. They seem more interested in getting some cash out of the clubs than sorting their own pathetic security. So all of Scotlands home games will be equally badly policed too. meaning the dangerous problems seen at the Poland game can and will happen again. not very reassuring for the England game when it comes. As for Rangers statement, factually it's not too bad but the tone is the usual "holier than thou" that just pisses off everyone that reads it. Whoever does our statements is a sanctimonious twat. Yeah, to be fair to Rangers, the content isn't ridiculous. I agree with a lot if it. As you say, it's the tone. Is it not level 5 PR company, which is Jim Traynor that do them? Although calling it PR is a bit of a cheek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Agree with Rangers and Renfrew blue on the sfa's apparent motivation being financial compensation rather than getting to the bottom of what happened and why. It was so obvious they got caught on the hop by the late goal and didn't have anything effective in place to stop a pitch invasion. Although the policing and stewarding at games is probably completely inadequate to deal with large crowds, let alone any bother in one. But 1 Motherwell fan gets on the pitch..... Edited September 30, 2016 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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