Mee Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Looks like there has been a massive leak of documents from a Panamanian legal company that specializes in tax avoidance for the rich and famous. Looks like a story that will keep on giving for a long time since 11 million pages of documents have been released. Particularly funny at the moment is the Icelandic pm when presented with the evidence in an interview http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/iceland-pm-calls-snap-election-offshore-revelations Panorama episode coming up soon with all the Brit's implicated too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mee Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 And the firms defence of why it's all cool.. http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/mossack-fonsecas-response-to-the-panama-papers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 55 minutes ago, Mee said: Looks like there has been a massive leak of documents from a Panamanian legal company that specializes in tax avoidance for the rich and famous. Looks like a story that will keep on giving for a long time since 11 million pages of documents have been released. Particularly funny at the moment is the Icelandic pm when presented with the evidence in an interview http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/iceland-pm-calls-snap-election-offshore-revelations Panorama episode coming up soon with all the Brit's implicated too. lol - definitely not the way to convince anyone that you havent done anything wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I thought I was watching this for a moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Can't believe it. Rich powerful people are corrupt. Shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 David Cameron's father apparently involved. That makes Cameron involved as he's a beneficiary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Strange... no mention of David Cameron's family involvement in the state Propaganda Machine. They've managed to turn it into another anti-Putin story. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-35918844 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 27 minutes ago, McDange said: Strange... no mention of David Cameron's family involvement in the state Propaganda Machine. They've managed to turn it into another anti-Putin story. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-35918844 Well it's no surprise that world leaders pals don't want to pay tax. The UK governments HMRC estate is managed by a tax exile company. They just point to other dodgy shit to hide their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 14 hours ago, G-Man said: I thought I was watching this for a moment. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Oh I'm sure Alan will be along any minute now to explain how his deity, DC, is caught up in this. Sure he'll also explain why his beloved HMRC, run from London, is evading tax by registering their properties in Jersey and Bermuda. Oh the irony of the barstewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, antidote said: Oh I'm sure Alan will be along any minute now to explain how his deity, DC, is caught up in this. I wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I've been going on about HMRC for ages now, Capita, Mapely, Hartnett. I was actually working for them when the Lichtenstein Tax came up in 2008. It was a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Cameron's father, employing Bahamians so he didn't have to pay tax to the UK. http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/04/panama-papers-david-cameron-father-tax-bahamas?CMP=fb_gu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 50 minutes ago, phart said: I've been going on about HMRC for ages now, Capita, Mapely, Hartnett. I was actually working for them when the Lichtenstein Tax came up in 2008. It was a shambles. A fine example of being "corrupt to the core". Although I'm not sure why there is an advantage in HMRC avoiding paying tax? Who gains from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 44 minutes ago, Orraloon said: A fine example of being "corrupt to the core". Although I'm not sure why there is an advantage in HMRC avoiding paying tax? Who gains from it? Mapely was the company that maintained the buildings etc, Capita did the inside cleaning etc, neither are publicly owned but got paid to administer the estates of the civil service. They aren't part of HMRC they looked after the estate. I was going to bring it up the only time i met one of the senior civil servants but unfortunately it slipped my mind as i had to correct her for lying about computers. We were complaining about computers and said she got on no problem this morning, when in actual fact i had spent 15 mins and 4 work stations trying to get her one. Just glibly talking shit so used to no one correcting her. I pointed it out to her quite stridently that i had to spend 15 minutes finding her a computer that morning then never got to another meeting again. The place was full of folk trying to "progress" so anyone below you is worthless, anyone the same is competition and everyone above you slavishly suck up to them. I used to review all the training material for my department add in steps or remove steps, check the material taught the skills needed etc. Then my Bosses colleague would go down to London and give a speech based on my work at some swanky hotel Dinner meeting place. So i resigned and went and did other shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Orraloon said: A fine example of being "corrupt to the core". Although I'm not sure why there is an advantage in HMRC avoiding paying tax? Who gains from it? HMRC doesnt pay Tax itself per se The problem with HMRC is that successive Governments are intent on privatising it. It used to be that those at the very top of the Inland Revenue were senior Civil Servants who in the main had did their time within the Inland Revenue. There were very few at the top who were not Inland Revenue trained tax experts. It was the same with the Customs and Excise When they decided to "mordernise" and cuts costs both organisations were merged. While they closed offices and reduced the workforce they also changed it at the top and created numerous Senior Executive posts and filled them from the private sector. Move on 15-20 years and you now have at least half of the HMRC workforce who know very little about tax who contribute almost nothing to tax collection. Most of the the highest paid jobs in HMRC do not require you to have any tax knowledge and are all concerned with statistics and bean counting. They are currently taking on new staff, giving them two weeks training which in total consists of listening in to experienced officers take calls and then they are put on the phones and expected to answer tax queries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I see the British media is circling the wagons and concentrating on over seas [ex] leaders, Putin in particular even though his name doesn't appear on any of the documents. No doubt the phone lines will be red hot from the establishment today/tonight to all the press barons. What am thinking! The press barons are some of the biggest tax avoiders. No doubt the some royals will be involved, but we'll never get to hear about it unless an outside source reveals that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) D Notice time. In fact i doubt anyone with a hand on power would need compelling to shut this up. Edited April 4, 2016 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 4 hours ago, phart said: Mapely was the company that maintained the buildings etc, Capita did the inside cleaning etc, neither are publicly owned but got paid to administer the estates of the civil service. They aren't part of HMRC they looked after the estate. Cheers, that makes sense noo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Some very interesting reading here. Breaks it all down too. http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3c3495adf4/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Have they not found anything about Rangers in there yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 The silence from this scandal is astounding, but not unsurprising. us plebs just shrugging our shoulders and saying "I knew they were at it", is exactly what they want us to do. We should be up in arms about this and shouting from the rooftops. At a time where the poorest and most vulnerable in our society are being hammered, where 0 hour contracts are slipping into the mainstream, these cants are dodging tax and the rest of us. Yet let's all focus on benefits Britian and the immigrants. It's these cants at the top that need to be held to account. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Just to continue BH's point above, one of the saddest aspects of this whole scandal is how timidly the people of Britain will react to it. The Icelandic people are on the streets demanding their Prime Minister resign. Brits will shrug their shoulders, ignore it, and get on with blaming immigrants and benefit thieves for everything. The agenda in the UK has well and truly been set by the right-wingers. People are brainwashed, supine and powerless. Edited April 5, 2016 by Rossy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Domesticated is what i've been calling it for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Icelandic PM resigns Cameron says he hasn't got any accounts ,bearer bonds or shares in Panama . He's guilty as fxxx ( Imo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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