Lamia Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, EddardStark said: Thresholds for IHT should be kept although not sure if the current levels are too high but the current Salem style witch hunt against a perfectly legitimate practice is concerning. Second property tax is slightly different. Speculative buyers accumulating wealth at the expense of pushing up local house prices should be discouraged There are plenty of legitimate practices that people can feel anger towards and rightly complain about. Just because it doesn't break the law doesn't always make something right particularly when you look at who is making these laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, EddardStark said: Thresholds for IHT should be kept although not sure if the current levels are too high but the current Salem style witch hunt against a perfectly legitimate practice is concerning. Second property tax is slightly different. Speculative buyers accumulating wealth at the expense of pushing up local house prices should be discouraged No, it isn't concerning. It's a direct consequence of the Tories idealogical attacks (aided by the right wing press) on the less fortunate in UK society. For either right or wrong, the perception is that the Tories look after the better off and demonise the rest. You can't expect there not to be a reaction to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 10 hours ago, antidote said: So corporation tax is not a tax? Inheritance tax is not a tax? road tax is not a tax? The list is quite extensive. Even the bbc licence fee can be considered a tax, pay your licence fee and the beeb pays taxes to the uk gov. How naive of you and if anybody is embarrassing themselves it is you. Just because it is does not have tax in the title doesn't really mean its not a tax, NI for example. Again you chose to only consider direct taxation, but not the indirect taxes. UK corporation tax is lower than that in Spain, France, Germany, Belgium. Sweden, Italy. Denmark, Austria and so on, National insurance was factored into into the figures I quoted and this was stated in my post. UK road tax is lower than Germany. Italy, Denmark, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Netherlands and so on. The licence fee in not mandatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: UK corporation tax is lower than that in Spain, France, Germany, Belgium. Sweden, Italy. Denmark, Austria and so on, National insurance was factored into into the figures I quoted and this was stated in my post. UK road tax is lower than Germany. Italy, Denmark, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Netherlands and so on. The licence fee in not mandatory. Council tax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 32 minutes ago, antidote said: Council tax? You really are grasping at straws here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I don't think it really matters what % corporation and private tax levels are, as long as there's legitimate and illegal ways to cheat the system then individuals and companies will go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Larky Masher said: You really are grasping at straws here. Excise duty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said: I don't think it really matters what % corporation and private tax levels are, as long as there's legitimate and illegal ways to cheat the system then individuals and companies will go for it. Correct and you could say that the government seems to deliberately leave doors open for people to get around the tax system. Doors that can only be fully opened by the rich. Edited April 12, 2016 by antidote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, antidote said: Excise duty? In the UK this is higher than in most European countries but this is offset by higher rates of VAT appplied to alcoholic drinks in many countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Fuel duty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Fuel duty? The UK is in the upper quartile but no where near the top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 17 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: I'd vote for Corbyn. You'd hope most of the U.K. Would especially after all this I wouldn't. Most of the population of Scotland wouldn't. We have better alternatives, none of which contain the word "Labour". Corbyn is against independence for Scotland, so he can get tae feck. He has no leadership qualities and much as I don't really care which party gets into power at Westminster (they're basically the same), I can recognise that having some leadership ability is a useful attribute for a PM. Corbyn is a bit of a joke really, risen to his current level because there was nobody less bad to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 30 minutes ago, Alibi said: I wouldn't. Most of the population of Scotland wouldn't. We have better alternatives, none of which contain the word "Labour". Corbyn is against independence for Scotland, so he can get tae feck. He has no leadership qualities and much as I don't really care which party gets into power at Westminster (they're basically the same), I can recognise that having some leadership ability is a useful attribute for a PM. Corbyn is a bit of a joke really, risen to his current level because there was nobody less bad to choose from. Depends what you're hoping to achieve in terms of saying we have better alternatives. I can't think of a better way in terms of playing the political game to get a fairer society than electing a uk party led by Corbyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Alibi said: I wouldn't. Most of the population of Scotland wouldn't. We have better alternatives, none of which contain the word "Labour". Corbyn is against independence for Scotland, so he can get tae feck. He has no leadership qualities and much as I don't really care which party gets into power at Westminster (they're basically the same), I can recognise that having some leadership ability is a useful attribute for a PM. Corbyn is a bit of a joke really, risen to his current level because there was nobody less bad to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Property tax? "Charges like stamp duty, council tax, capital gains tax, inheritance tax and business rates are higher in the UK than any of the 33 other members of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2489554/Britons-pay-highest-property-taxes-world-Charges-like-stamp-duty-mean-fork-60BILLION-year.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 "No leadership ability" What like Blair, Cameron or Osborne? You have to wonder if people actually want real change or just more of the same with a different flag or colour on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, antidote said: Property tax? "Charges like stamp duty, council tax, capital gains tax, inheritance tax and business rates are higher in the UK than any of the 33 other members of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2489554/Britons-pay-highest-property-taxes-world-Charges-like-stamp-duty-mean-fork-60BILLION-year.html Yes badge and quoting the daily mail to make a political point. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 23 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Yes badge and quoting the daily mail to make a political point. Brilliant. Can't be accused of providing biased information then can we. You know the old saying: know thy enemy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, antidote said: Can't be accused of providing biased information then can we. You know the old saying: know thy enemy! When it suits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 26 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: "No leadership ability" What like Blair, Cameron or Osborne? You have to wonder if people actually want real change or just more of the same with a different flag or colour on it. What change? Like all the other historic Labour leaders who wanted Scotland under the rule of westminster. Red tory/blue tory they're all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: When it suits Nope! I try as hard as I can to provide evidence from the same party affiliated newspapers etc. So as not to show bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, antidote said: What change? Like all the other historic Labour leaders who wanted Scotland under the rule of westminster. Red tory/blue tory they're all the sams Only when viewed through the narrow lens of independence. Like it or not Scotland is part of the Union for the foreseeable future. Social change, assuming that this is important to you, is surely best achieved via a Corbyn government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 3 hours ago, antidote said: Excise duty? You want to provide detailed calculations and comparisons or are you just going to keep listing various taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Only when viewed through the narrow lens of independence. Like it or not Scotland is part of the Union for the foreseeable future. Social change, assuming that this is important to you, is surely best achieved via a Corbyn government? Viewed through Independence or not Labour leaders in the past have been just as bad at cuts etc. as the tories when in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Lamia said: You want to provide detailed calculations and comparisons or are you just going to keep listing various taxes? You do have google on your computer I take it. Another one for you; APD tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.thumb.jpg.5eeaf0fbe501ba3c868c32fd77caef1f.jpg)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.