ParisInAKilt Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: One of his first official acts has been to stop US funded aid groups from discussing and distributing information about abortion. The bible bashers are delighted. And also put an end to TTIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Whit! It wasn't him that stopped t.o.t.p. ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, ErsatzThistle said: One of his first official acts has been to stop US funded aid groups from discussing and distributing information about abortion. The bible bashers are delighted. Yeah democrats rescind it and republicans re-instate it, been that way since the 1994. Clinton rescinded it, Bush re-instated it, obama rescinded it, Trump re-instated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Quite sadly I just watched Spicers full press conference today, and thought he was very good. Totally different from the performance the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I wonder what this is all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 10 hours ago, dipped flake said: Well one of his first acts has been to start the move to make Jerusalem the recognised capital of Israel, at least as far as the USA is concerned, so I think it's safe to say he will never make the World a safer place. I've previously posted many times that Jerusalem would be the capital of a one world government. 5 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: One of his first official acts has been to stop US funded aid groups from discussing and distributing information about abortion. The bible bashers are delighted. Just so that we are clear... There are millions and millions of non-Christians worldwide who oppose abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: I've previously posted many times that Jerusalem would be the capital of a one world government. I'd go for that, just to see how the Israelis felt about it getting taken off of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: Just so that we are clear... There are millions and millions of non-Christians worldwide who oppose abortion. Would they be followers of another religion perhaps ? How many think that it should be up to the individual woman themselves and that men should but out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 45 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Would they be followers of another religion perhaps ? How many think that it should be up to the individual woman themselves and that men should but out ? I don't agree with Scotty on many things but I think he's right on the core point as he puts it; there are lots of people who oppose abortion for all sorts of reasons, not all of them religious. I don't want to run off topic & open a can of worms on this, but there is a perspective on human life, its nurture and preservation that can exist without needing a deity to justify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, Huddersfield said: I don't agree with Scotty on many things but I think he's right on the core point as he puts it; there are lots of people who oppose abortion for all sorts of reasons, not all of them religious. I don't want to run off topic & open a can of worms on this, but there is a perspective on human life, its nurture and preservation that can exist without needing a deity to justify it. I disagree The whole abortion can of worms is about allowing (or not as the case may be) the empowerment of women It's the same with contraceptives in the Roman Catholic doctrine This perspective on human life argument is hypocritical and contradictory considering what else goes on in the world - war, famine, poverty, disease etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, Ally Bongo said: I disagree The whole abortion can of worms is about allowing (or not as the case may be) the empowerment of women It's the same with contraceptives in the Roman Catholic doctrine This perspective on human life argument is hypocritical and contradictory considering what else goes on in the world - war, famine, poverty, disease etc I understand your argument & am not for one minute advocating abolishing the right to abortion. My point is only that I believe that some people, & I include myself in that, have personal ethics regarding humanity that has nothing to do with religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: This perspective on human life argument is hypocritical and contradictory considering what else goes on in the world - war, famine, poverty, disease etc As usual, most folk who use the word 'hypocritical', don't know how to use it. An individual (through support) can make a decision not to abort, but an individual can't make a decision to end war, famine, poverty, disease, etc. (i believe the word is 'whataboutery'.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Huddersfield said: My point is only that I believe that some people, & I include myself in that, have personal ethics regarding humanity that has nothing to do with religion. Correct. (Which is all I was saying.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Toepoke said: I'd go for that, just to see how the Israelis felt about it getting taken off of them. They'll knowing put who they think is their messiah on the throne. (All will seem well until they discover that they have been double-crossed by the antichrist). The scenes won't be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Would they be followers of another religion perhaps ? They'd be from all walks of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: As usual, most folk who use the word 'hypocritical', don't know how to use it. An individual (through support) can make a decision not to abort, but an individual can't make a decision to end war, famine, poverty, disease, etc. (i believe the word is 'whataboutery'.) Whatever way you want to spin it to suit your agenda really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: They'll knowing put who they think is their messiah on the throne. (All will seem well until they discover that they have been double-crossed by the antichrist). Messiah's and antichrist's Seek help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Whatever way you want to spin it to suit your agenda really Explain the spin. 2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Messiah's and antichrist's Seek help My help comes from the Lord... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 19 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: I've previously posted many times that Jerusalem would be the capital of a one world government. If the Christian Zionists (who Trump would appear to be appeasing) get their way They and many evangelists in the USA do not want a two state solution as it would delay "the second coming of Christ" and the end of times. Absolutely fvcking bonkers the lot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 5 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: They and many evangelists in the USA do not want a two state solution as it would delay "the second coming of Christ" and the end of times. Nothing will delay the Second Coming (and we're already in the 'last days'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Scotty CTA said: (and we're already in the 'last days'). You've been saying that for about 10 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: Nothing will delay the Second Coming (and we're already in the 'last days'). What's the difference between that belief and say followers of Jim Jones ? Death cults must be a hoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Parklife said: You've been saying that for about 10 years... Maybe he meant the last 4000 days? Which, in the overall scheme of things, is quite a small number. Unless he is one of those folk who believes the earth is only 6000 years old. Then 4000 days would be much larger portion of the time the planet has existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Maybe he meant the last 4000 days? Which, in the overall scheme of things, is quite a small number. Unless he is one of those folk who believes the earth is only 6000 years old. Then 4000 days would be much larger portion of the time the planet has existed. First Prince William was the Anti-Christ, then Obama. I'm wondering who's next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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