ProudScot Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The thing is, we could solve 2 problems here: Martin could move to RB where he has been playing recently with Norwich. Caulker would be guaranteed a start with us; with England he'll have the likes of young Stones to contend with. Caulker probably isnt good enough for England. He would be our best CB. It would annoy a lot of fans initially but he would be far from the first player to choose England initially to then change to playing for us. What I will say is that the passion guys like Jordan Rhodes & James Morrison show proves they genuinly want to play for Scotland - I have no issue at all there. If Caulker shows the same passion then fair play, we've had plenty born and bread guys like Alan Hutton who often looks like he can't be bothered playing for us & Some high profile examples of guys we have taken through our schoolboy system who have turned their back on us under the grandparent rule even though they are born and bread Scots. It's one that isn't going to please all. Ultimately our defence is shocking and we won't qualify for a tournament or even come close until it is improved. The management will know this so I expect Caulker isn't even the only 'eligible' on their radar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Caulker probably isnt good enough for England. He would be our best CB. It would annoy a lot of fans initially but he would be far from the first player to choose England initially to then change to playing for us. What I will say is that the passion guys like Jordan Rhodes & James Morrison show proves they genuinly want to play for Scotland - I have no issue at all there. If Caulker shows the same passion then fair play, we've had plenty born and bread guys like Alan Hutton who often looks like he can't be bothered playing for us & Some high profile examples of guys we have taken through our schoolboy system who have turned their back on us under the grandparent rule even though they are born and bread Scots. It's one that isn't going to please all. Ultimately our defence is shocking and we won't qualify for a tournament or even come close until it is improved. The management will know this so I expect Caulker isn't even the only 'eligible' on their radar... I find I must agree with you in this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic wouldn't give a second thought to it, he'd be straight in their team. And they've all qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic wouldn't give a second thought to it, he'd be straight in their team. And they've all qualified. Very good point. Also these nations cap teenagers at big clubs before they have played much first team football. Not saying that's right or wrong but for some reason we look on N.Ireland as a 'lesser' nation and 'we dont need to do that' when they are ahead of us and quite substantially at the moment! Wales too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Martin, Caulker, Hanley, Tierney (Robertson wide instead of Anya). We were weak at the back in the last campaign and it cost us. This looks more solid to me (if we get Caulker). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic wouldn't give a second thought to it, he'd be straight in their team. And they've all qualified. Excellent point - the days when we where lucky enough to pick 3 squads full of home & anglo Scots are i'm afraid probably gone forever, I would include him if choice was mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I know it is the rules but I hate the thought of it happening now and before. I would love it to be where you are born and the Parent rule only. every other country use it so if we want a better team we have to. When you look at it it happens in every sport. I think with caulker it will feel worse as he has already played for Ingerland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Caulker is only gona play because he is nowhere near the england team. No thanks. Id rather lose with Scots than win with c*nts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud1982 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Think he's a good centre back . he'll end up playing well for Liverpool and get a call up in the next squad for England,but never really be part of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Think he's a good centre back . he'll end up playing well for Liverpool and get a call up in the next squad for England,but never really be part of the team. I genuinely hope this is what happens ! Don't want him playing for Scotland at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I know it is the rules but I hate the thought of it happening now and before. I would love it to be where you are born and the Parent rule only. every other country use it so if we want a better team we have to. When you look at it it happens in every sport. I think with caulker it will feel worse as he has already played for Ingerland. Does it? The Scottish rugger team seems to have accents from all over the place, or use to from what I remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The whole eligibility rule is horrible, but surely they at least need to get rid of the scenario when you can play for 2 countries. What pish. I'll take Gordon Greer anyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The whole eligibility rule is horrible, but surely they at least need to get rid of the scenario when you can play for 2 countries. What pish. I'll take Gordon Greer anyday. I'll take qualification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Excellent news about about Caulker, direct quote as well that he is interested. Get him capped Played for England but aye let's get the begging bowl out. It's not club football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic wouldn't give a second thought to it, he'd be straight in their team. And they've all qualified. Who gives a fcuk what they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Caulker is only gona play because he is nowhere near the england team. No thanks. Id rather lose with Scots than win with c*nts Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Spot on. and of course if Russell Martin had been called up by England he would have told them where to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide tackle Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Keep the scoland team scottish, dont want english rejects in our team while theres eager scots sitting on the bench, as someone said before I'd rather lose with scots than win with c*nts. Yeah hes a good player as is ritchie, but end of the day theyre only playing for us because they couldnt make the england team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Is Connor Washington eligible to play for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I'll take qualification. there's 24 other European teams you could start to support if that is your reasoning...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 and of course if Russell Martin had been called up by England he would have told them where to go. What you seem to suggest there is that anyone would select england over scotland given the chance if they qualified for both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 What you seem to suggest there is that anyone would select england over scotland given the chance if they qualified for both? A lot would, including a lot of Scots born players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Is Connor Washington eligible to play for us? I posted a week or so back a link about him. His mother is Scottish. However according to the Peterborough Utd chairman, Washington looks likely to commit his future to Northern Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 A lot would, including a lot of Scots born players. Not really what international football should be about is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 What you seem to suggest there is that anyone would select england over scotland given the chance if they qualified for both? What you seem to suggest there is that anyone would select england over scotland given the chance if they qualified for both? Not anyone, but I think we're kidding ourselves on that the English born players in the team all supported Scotland as a kid and wanted England to lose. It's just our luck they weren't picked for England. It would appear the "c***ts" some people are referring to are just the ones England got first. It's a lot of racist pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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