Scotty CTA Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Hearts 19 points clear but The Rangers have a billion games in hand (so can still win it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 How the hell dies a 1 day meeting cost 200k? London prices remember... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Caviar's nae cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Mr Roar The United Nations define the State we live in as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and northern Ireland and dependent territories.... The United Kingdom Is further described as consisting of the Country of England, the Country of Scotland , the Principality of Wales and The province of Northern Ireland. You will forgive me for using the United Nations as a source of Information over your opinion. you can get into any word game you like but a region we are. If we were a member of the UN then we'd be a country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 How the hell dies a 1 day meeting cost 200k? Charles green got a hotel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 you can get into any word game you like but a region we are. If we were a member of the UN then we'd be a country. It doesn't work like that as there are countries that exist that aren't in the UN. Just because countries exist within a larger body (think the Soviet Union or the EU) doesn't mean that they cease being countries. If you are looking for a general rule of thumb then I'd say that a team playing in World Cup qualifying would be from it's own country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 you can get into any word game you like but a region we are. If we were a member of the UN then we'd be a country. hey I feel your pain but Legally a Country we are,.... Sorry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Out of interest, where does the UN say this? It seems strange to mix the broad term ('country') with more specifically political terms such as 'principality' and 'province' ('kingdom' would seem closer to the lexical field). I think most people would view Wales as a country. None of which means the UN could not have come up with such a daft definition (although I assume they would base such definitions on how member states wish to be defined). when the united nations was set up in 1946? this is how the UK was described, it has not been amended,.. That is the Legal position, Calling the UK a country is the same as calling the EU a country , the EU is a big political union, the UK is a wee political Union. Neither are countries. That's why Scotland can have an Independence referendum and Shetland/Cornwall cant,,, I don't know about Wales, Legally they were incorporated into England around 1703, under Henry 7th's rule, but sometimes political reality takes over from Legality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 when the united nations was set up in 1946? this is how the UK was described, it has not been amended,.. That is the Legal position, Calling the UK a country is the same as calling the EU a country , the EU is a big political union, the UK is a wee political Union. Neither are countries. That's why Scotland can have an Independence referendum and Shetland/Cornwall cant,,, I don't know about Wales, Legally they were incorporated into England around 1703, under Henry 7th's rule, but sometimes political reality takes over from Legality... meant 1503... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 when the united nations was set up in 1946? this is how the UK was described, it has not been amended,.. That is the Legal position, Calling the UK a country is the same as calling the EU a country , the EU is a big political union, the UK is a wee political Union. Neither are countries. That's why Scotland can have an Independence referendum and Shetland/Cornwall cant,,, I don't know about Wales, Legally they were incorporated into England around 1703, under Henry 7th's rule, but sometimes political reality takes over from Legality... Westminster could grant an independence referendum to any arbitrary unit of the UK that it chose - it's nowt to do with how the UN defines the state. Still, I'd be interested to see a link to the UN document where England and Scotland are referred to as 'countries' while Wales is designated a 'principality'. As I said, I'd find it strange, but I'm perfectly willing to believe it - I just haven't been able to track down the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 It doesn't work like that as there are countries that exist that aren't in the UN. Just because countries exist within a larger body (think the Soviet Union or the EU) doesn't mean that they cease being countries. If you are looking for a general rule of thumb then I'd say that a team playing in World Cup qualifying would be from it's own country. So Kosovo isn't a country then?But Wales is despite not actually being one? I don't think this works as a definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Westminster could grant an independence referendum to any arbitrary unit of the UK that it chose - it's nowt to do with how the UN defines the state. Still, I'd be interested to see a link to the UN document where England and Scotland are referred to as 'countries' while Wales is designated a 'principality'. As I said, I'd find it strange, but I'm perfectly willing to believe it - I just haven't been able to track down the source. you know what its like,, old school, I read it a few years ago, it might have been in a book or in the paper, was before the internet, the source was reliable ,It might have been a BBC programme, and that's what I have always accepted. I have never found anything to say otherwise, it was in the articles that set up the UN. A country and a nation state had to be defined and that is how they defined the UK. It still sounds logical today. IMO, so , sorry I cant link you a link. The Cornwall thing is slightly different, as of course any state can grant a constituent part a referendum, but Scotland , as a Country had the right to have one without Permission, , Westminster Legally could not stop it. In Catalonia, it can be stopped, because by the UN definition, Catalonia has never been a country, Spain is the Country and as such only Spain has the right to grant this... The USSR was a Union and the constituent parts voted for Independence, and Yugoslavia was a Union of sorts , Slovenia,Croatia, Serbia etc,, But Kosovo is a sort of Cornwall situation. I am sure if there was a majority of Plaid Cymru in Wales and they wanted a Referendum, I am sure Westminster would allow it... But Westminster has granted NI the right to have one, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Hearts 19 points clear but The Rangers have a billion games in hand (so can still win it). Off the radar games in hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 This is a thread about the goings on at Ibrox, aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Off the radar games in hand?Unless the other teams forget to turn up or These Newcastle lads are really good we won't be catching Hearts. Even with a billion games in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 This is a thread about the goings on at Ibrox, aye? Aye, sorry, I took it off thread Rangers yeeeha :ok: rangers boooo :wave: take your pick and get back on track..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Banned for life and he's still only a boy?Corruption in India Never.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) So Kosovo isn't a country then? But Wales is despite not actually being one? I don't think this works as a definition. There won't be a perfect definition due to war, political struggles, etc. (which is why I said 'general rule of thumb'). Having a National anthem, your own money, National borders, a distinct culture/language, a National 'dress', a National instrument, unique National law, sports teams/athletes that represent you internationally, etc. are also pretty good indications that you have your own country. (Kosovo has only been trying to get established since 2008. I would call Wales a country, but I understand that they officially aren't.) Edited February 8, 2015 by Scotty CTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Much as I wish it were so, it isn't .......... Scotland is not a country and Edinburgh is not a capital. look it up. We are a region of a country Funny how we can be a constituent country without being a country. I'm intrigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) 1600 shareholders have confirmed their wish to attend the EGM :wink2: https://www.change.org/p/wh-ireland-confirm-a-suitable-venue-for-the-general-meeting-of-rifc-has-been-selected 2000 attended the AGM at Ibrox. The hotel is notified every time a shareholder confirms they will be there. Edited February 8, 2015 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/11398591/Rangers-fans-demand-entry-to-EGM-in-London.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 1600 shareholders have confirmed their wish to attend the EGM :wink2: https://www.change.org/p/wh-ireland-confirm-a-suitable-venue-for-the-general-meeting-of-rifc-has-been-selected 2000 attended the AGM at Ibrox. The hotel is notified every time a shareholder confirms they will be there. Really! Good effort. This could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark frae Crieff Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 1600 shareholders have confirmed their wish to attend the EGM :wink2: https://www.change.org/p/wh-ireland-confirm-a-suitable-venue-for-the-general-meeting-of-rifc-has-been-selected 2000 attended the AGM at Ibrox. The hotel is notified every time a shareholder confirms they will be there. Has anyone contacted Mega bus ... they may need a few more coaches.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthTam Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Is the EGM valid if some shareholders are unable to get access to the meeting when it is already full? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/11398591/Rangers-fans-demand-entry-to-EGM-in-London.html Excellent i love stuff like this, some dodgy fecks try and steal a march, only to find it's been matched and then some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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